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My Africa Season Analysis/Character Rankings
2020.08.18 19:09 birdworld_My Africa Season Analysis/Character Rankings
Welcome friends, I'm currently going through my first full rewatch of the entire series and thought it would fun to collect some of my thoughts after every season with some character rankings and season analysis. Before we get into it, here are a couple notes:
I'll be talking about each castaway as a television character and not only as a game player (and definitely not as a person outside of the show). I love good game play, so often the two go hand-in-hand, but there are always exceptions.
The analysis is based solely on the season in question. For example, in Colby’s appearances in All Stars and Heroes vs. Villains will have no effect on the rankings or analysis.
Lastly, this is of course my opinion. I welcome all hate, arguments and discussion - that’s why I’m posting these, because I love talking about Survivor!
Alright finally, let’s jump into Survivor Africa! Season Overview Often seen as the black sheep of the classic era, Africa is a season I find to be really underrated. The pre-merge is unique and filled with fun characters. The generation war in Samburu is one of my favorite pre-merge story lines. The following twist and downfall of the young Samburu's is so deliciously unfair and satisfying that it ties the pre-merge up as its own little story. The post-merge is also interesting and very unique. The environment was very harsh in Africa, but it was different than in Australia. In Australia the environmental issues, like the loss of food and the flood, drove the action, whereas in Africa it halts the action. Thanks to their lack of food and their inability to leave camp, camp life scenes are pretty dull. We get a lot of scenes talking about Big Tom's boil, his stinky feet and other stuff that just feels like filler rather than interesting character development. Where Africa really shines is in it's rewards. Ethan and Lex's trip to barter goats in an African village, Brandon and Frank's movie date, Lex and Tom's safari, and Lex's trip to the AIDS hospital are all some of the best reward scenes the series has to offer. Overall, I really like Africa. I think the cast solid all around if not spectacular and the season manages to maintain momentum despite the lack proactive strategy. If this is one you've been avoiding, I'd say it's well worth a watch. Cast Rankings/Analysis Not Ranked: Silas Gaiher (12th) Jessie Camacho (15th) - Jessie is a classic case of getting sick early and never being able to get their footing in the game. Jessie’s only lasting legacy to me is how disturbing her unbelievably chapped lips look. Diane Ogden (16th) - I would probably argue that Diane Ogden plays about the worst three days of Survivor through this point in the series. On the hike in Diane not only gets the tribe lost while leading with the map, she also goes way too fast, separating herself from the tribe immediately. She then manages to cost Boran the immunity challenge, even passing out at the end, and then she gets caught up in the whole BeanGate fiasco. Diane was never going to last very long, and I can’t say I’m heartbroken that we didn’t see more of her. Kim Powers (6th) - I don’t dislike Kim Powers, but the most I can say about her is that she’s sweet and seems like fun. She’s just kind of a less than exciting fourth member of the young Samburu alliance, and doesn’t really have much of an impact on any part of the season. I think her most memorable moment is turning on Brandon, but other than she’s a somewhat forgettable classic Survivor. Carl Bilancione (14th) - Doctor Carl is memorable for two things - bragging about his money, and complaining about those damned lazy Gen X’ers… Yeah, not that exciting of a legacy. For me however, Carl is a rock solid character for such an early boot. He gives solid confessionals and he provides some early season conflict. Maybe it’s just me, but does his cadence remind anyone else of Penner? Ultimately, Carl has long been forgotten in Survivor history. I’m not saying he’s some amazing hidden gem of a character, but I think he was a perfectly fine pre-merge boot. Frank Garrison (7th) - Frank used to be one of my least favorite players ever but he started to come around on me a little bit on this rewatch. He’s kind of like Walmart brand Rudy. Frank is maybe the most socially inept player we’ve ever seen, which leads to some very weird and funny moments. Like, he literally doesn’t know what brunch is - can you not use context clues Frank? Frank is still not one of my favorites, but once I stopped looking at him as a joyless drain on the season and more as a goofy side character, he got a lot easier to stomach. Lindsey Richter (11th) - One of Survivor’s most fun forgotten villains, Lindsey very well may have been the main character in Africa’s pre-merge. If I could sum up Lindsey’s character in two words, it would be annoying and intense - two things that make an entertaining and wild Survivor villain. It seems like Lindsey’s emotions are always tuned to 100. She’s often terrifyingly hardcore, whether she’s in Silas’ face about an alliance with Frank or she’s going ballistic after getting votes at Tribal. While I’m sure she’s lovely in real life, Lindsey is unlikable, lazy and annoying on TV. She’s fun to root against, she doesn’t overstay her welcome and her downfall is about as satisfying as we’ve seen in the first three seasons of the show. Clarence Black (10th) - It’s really a shame that Clarence was kind of DOA in Africa. After BeanGate, Clarence never really found his footing. Previously, I would’ve said that Clarence is one of the more underrated classic Survivors, but I think people have started to recognize how he really was a good character. The saga with the chickens is one of Survivor’s all time great comedic moments. He has a couple more really funny lines throughout the season as well. Clarence was a lot of fun to watch on TV, and it damn it sucks that he lost the game over a can of beans and a game of rock, paper, scissors. Kelly Goldsmith (9th) - I know Kelly is a favorite among the internet community and I’m a big fan as well. She’s seemingly non-threatening and sweet in the early merge and becomes sassy and biting around episode five. Her brutally cold confessionals towards Lex and Frank along with her charm makes for a deadly combination. And her voting confessional against Lex is maybe one of the all-time greatest. What keeps her from being higher is that she really isn’t a huge presence in the season until the Lindsey episode, but when she comes into the spotlight, she definitely leaves her mark on the season. Linda Spencer (13th) - To quote Brandon, “Linda has two very different sides. It’s like this sweet New England mom, and then this crazy woman.” I know I’m not alone in thinking this, but Linda is truly one of the most entertaining and memorable early boots in Survivor history. From her hypothesis that the “idol goddess didn’t want to live in a home of conflict,” to her constant musings about Mother Africa, Linda was truly one of a kind. The scene where Linda wakes up the young Samburu’s before the reward challenge in episode four is one of my favorites of the entire season. The level of passive-aggressiveness Linda exhibits is off the charts, and her half-hearted attempt to make up with Lindsey and give her a hug is truly one of the most awkward things I’ve ever seen (in the best way). However, Linda is not just some goofball. She’s very smart and surprisingly perceptive in confessional - and reading through her CBS.com bio, Linda is truly an incredible human being. As far as fourth boots go, you’re hard pressed to beat Linda Spencer in my eyes. Kim Johnson (2nd) - Kim Johnson catches a lot of flak for being boring, and yes, at times she is pretty boring. I have a soft spot for Mama Kim though, and she’s a character that I think gets massively underrated a lot of the time. Mama Kim’s redemption story from liability on Boran to badass beating the Boran big guns in the final immunity challenge is one that I think is underrated. She is also lowkey funny, sometimes by design, but more so unintentionally. She’s so verbose, serious, and strange in the way she words things that it makes me do a double take if I’m not paying attention close enough. I won’t sit here and tell you Mama Kim was a good player, she probably should’ve flipped on the boys at Final 6 and not taken the three biggest jury threats to the Final 4. I also won’t sit here and tell you she’s an iconic character, but I think it’s a shame that she gets forgotten when I think she adds something to the season. Brandon Quinton (8th) - Brandon is a really interesting character in Africa. Sneakily, I think he plays a really great game pre-merge. He’s the voice of reason and the competent player in the extremely erratic young Samburu alliance. He’s adaptable, he tries to keep everyone on the same page while maintaining civility with the older Samburu alliance, and he has some biting, very funny confessionals the whole time. His game goes off the rails post-merge, as he flips on his original tribe for no real strategic purpose and gets voted out immediately after. Where’s it’s interesting is that Brandon basically sinks his own game not in the name #BIGMOVES, but in order to not align with Frank. “I wasn’t gonna align with Frank, they should’ve known better than that, and that’s pretty much my main motivation. I’d rather be out of here in three days than anyone say I had aligned myself with Frank.” Brandon is a gay man who is so adamantly against aligning with openly homophobic Frank that he literally sinks his own game for it. I know this isn’t every fan’s cup of tea and I understand why, but this sort of moral dilemma that transcends the game is something that fascinates me, and makes Survivor so much more than just a chess match. Lex van den Berghe (3rd) - Lex is one of the most polarizing players to fans, and he’s one that I myself have a lot of mixed feelings about. For one, I think he stands out as a great guy, one of the most respected people among those who have met him. For me, he’s up there as one of the series’ best ever narrators. Think about how boring Africa would have been if Lex weren’t there to make everything sound interesting and poetic, and instead we had to lean on Ethan or Kim Johnson for confessionals. On the other hand, I find Lex to be an overwhelmingly frustrating, and sneakily bad, player. Episode nine, which should be titled “Lex Loses his Fucking Mind,” shows Lex with an unbelievable amount of paranoia and it really is frustrating to watch. Along with his personal paranoia driving votes that could have cost him the game much earlier, Lex’s insistence on telling people they are going to get voted out is so frustratingly bad, and it really should’ve backfired in his face. Despite this, Lex is clearly a good physical and social player, which carried him deep into the game. Lex is a mixed bag - but I think generally a really great Survivor character, and I respect the impact he had on this season too much to have him any lower. “Big” Tom Buchanon (4th) - Old Big Tom is not Survivor Africa’s most dynamic player or smoothest narrator, but he’s one of the most fun characters we have from these early days of Survivor. In a season filled with a lot of suffering, Big Tom is a consistent source of a laugh. The “he’s a Jew, he won’t eat the ham!” scene at the auction, the drunk night at the reward with Lex and the barely decipherable ramblings and unique analogies are some of the series’ most memorable comedic moments. Big Tom drops just a little bit because he has a couple scenes that really rub me the wrong way - particularly the nature in which he yells at Clarence in episode one. Overall though, Big Tom plays the perfect comic relief to the more serious tone of the other key players in Africa, and there’s a reason he was up there with some of the early days’ most popular players. Ethan Zohn (1st) - Ethan is one of the few players that I think embodies the perfect triple-threat. He’s very likable and good socially, good physically, and solid strategically. He’s also not overly threatening in any facet making him a good bet to go far in any circumstance (of course, returnee seasons are a totally different beast). Ethan is one of the best people to ever play Survivor and one of the easiest to root for. His game is good, but it’s not really inspiring, him taking a backseat to Lex is good strategy, but not the most exhilarating TV. I still love Ethan though, and understand why he was one of the most beloved winners at the time. Teresa “T-Bird” Cooper (5th) - I know this isn’t a controversial take, but how can you not love T-Bird? Truly one of the most genuinely kind and likable Survivor’s of all time, T-Bird is just an absolute beam of joy from start to finish. Her rendition of “Tomorrow” during the merge immunity challenge is an iconic moment along with the classic auction line - “Good enough to make you wanna slap your mama.” I was also pleasantly surprised by how hard she was playing the game post-merge. T-Bird is constantly trying to flip the script on Lex, but whether she’s met with hesitation from the other Boran’s or a rogue Brandon Quinton it never quite works out. T-Bird is an icon, and this latest rewatch made me even more upset that she didn’t make Second Chances and I’ve only had 5 years to get over it. In case you missed it, here are my previous posts: Borneo The Australian Outback
2020.07.06 21:18 Why_am_I_not_studyinMy Thoughts on the First Ten Seasons
My first memory of survivor is the Palau final immunity challenge. Before this quarantine, I had never seen any of these seasons, and so with nothing better to do, I decided to start watching the series in order from the first season. I'm sure absolutely nobody else had this exact same idea. Put simply I really enjoyed these seasons, I liked the focus on characters, and how emotional everyone gets. Something about betrayals being taken so personally adds to the game for me. I'm going to be ranking the season based on my enjoyment, and then giving my top 25 favourite characters from these seasons. I think my opinion holds weight and is worth listening to because I have a laptop and access to the internet and I am unemployed, so yeah let's get this started. Warning, it's way longer than it needs to be. Ranking the First Ten Seasons of Survivor From Worst to Best
10 Australian Outback: I just found this season boring. I wasn't crazy about any of the players, and I didn't find any of strategy exciting. I understand that Tina's strategic play was hidden, and that's very unfortunate because I found this season boring, and probably the hardest to get through, even though there wasn't anything horrible that happened. The only character in this season I really enjoyed watching was Jerri. Keith was alright, and everyone else just bored me.
9 Thailand: I am not normally a fan of dominant games. I find them impressive, but not entertaining. Brian played great, but that doesn't change the fact this whole season was uncomfortable to watch. Brian's misogyny, Ted and Ghandia, everything Clay said. There is a lot going on in this season that is just not fun to watch. The reason this season is above Australian Outback is because there were several moments I enjoyed watching. The attack zone, Brian on the elephant, Brian getting drunk, Brian watching his home video. All these moments edged Thailand above AO.
8 All-Stars: The reason this season is above the previous two is the pre-merge. The reason it is not any higher is everything after. Like Brian, Rob Mariano played a dominant game even if Amber won. Also like Brian, there were a few entertaining moments with Rob that I really enjoyed, but they were surrounded with constant moments that reminded me that I do not enjoy watching Boston Rob dominate. There was also a lot of ugliness in this season. Kathy calling Jenna's concern for her a dying mother a "cancer." Everyone's reaction to Sue. The bright lights in this season were Ethan, and Jerri. Shii-ann also had some moments.
7 Amazon: This season might be the one that felt the most dated. Though all of these season did feel dated at points. Rob C. was just not that enjoyable to watch for me. He had fun moments, and good gameplay, and overall I was disappointed he lost even though I knew he would go out at 3. It just felt like at points he was trying too hard to be Dr. Will, without the same level of charm or something. I really like RHAP so this isn't a knock on him, as much as his showing in Amazon. Only other characters I enjoyed watching were Matt, and to a lesser extent Butch. I didn't enjoy watching Jenna or Heidi, though I understand why Jenna beat Matt. Overall I just didn't find this season funny, or exciting even though this was probably the season I was looking forward to the most.
6 Borneo: The majority of the enjoyment I got from this season was watching people being shocked and disgusted with the idea of an alliance. I also found Sean hilarious. Greg was pretty funny. Rudy alternated between offensive and funny. Rich was decent to watch but I've never been a huge fan of him as a character. Not much else to say, this was an alright season but didn't really feel like survivor to me.
5 Africa: This is the first season on this list that I really enjoyed. I had moments I liked from the previous 5 seasons, but the top five are all seasons I'd rewatch and actively looked forward to watching every night. The reason this one is fifth is that nothing really exciting happens this season. I can't think of a single moment of gameplay I was super excited for. I also liked Ethan a hundred times more in All-Stars. In this season I got nearly nothing out of his scenes that weren't in the African village. The main reason I loved this season is the cast and the boot order. Everyone I didn't like left first. The only person I would have liked to stay a little longer was Clarence. I found him hilarious. The only people I wasn't crazy about in the final six were Ethan and Kim J. but even then they were just kind of boring. T-Bird was really sweet and likable. Her admitting to Lex that she voted for him was a moment. Kim P. was funny and peppy and just had fun moments. Big Tom was kind of like Rudy where he had moments I found funny and other moments I didn't appreciate, but his highs were higher, and his lows were less outright homophobic. Lex is one of my favourite players ever. I just found him interesting and fun to watch. It felt like he was always trying his best to do good but would fail miserably at points. If he won this season probably wouldn't be any higher but I would have been happier. The final six also all got along really well which I liked. It was just fun to watch. Not to mention the lions and elephants were cool to see.
4 Vanuatu: The pre-merge had its moments. I really enjoyed the girls' tribe. Eliza was easy to root for, Ami was a solid villain, Twila was likeable for a good while there. I never really warmed to Scout but she wasn't terrible for a while. Even though she apparently did a lot, we never saw much of Leann. Julie grew on me near the end. The men's tribe was a lot more boring. Chris didn't come into his own until the final 7 or so. Chad was a little inspirational, but also super boring. Sarge was a character but not one I was crazy. All the pretty boys were super boring. The only super enjoyable man in the pre-merge was Rory and that's mostly because he understood how classless everyone was acting. Him wanting to burn down the camp is one of my favourite moments ever. Obviously the final 7 is what everyone talks about, and for good reason. It's pretty exciting watching this women's alliance do exactly what Ami was afraid they would. Completely fall apart. Especially since it happened so shortly after they all ate the chicken without Chris and Chad. I think Chris D. was an amazing liar, and entertaining throughout most of the season, though in the last episode he got a bit too arrogant for my liking. It felt like he was putting the girls down in his confessionals for no reason. That's one reason this season isn't in my top 3, along with the men's tribe being so boring, and the iffy early merge.
3 Pearl Islands: The top three are basically interchangeable. They had enjoyable moments throughout, amazing characters, and solid winners. Before sitting down to write all of this, I was sure this season would be number 1 or 2, but right now I feel like it belongs here. I think the pre-merge was pretty great up until the Outcasts twist. Andrew Savage basically giving everything he could to bring them to even numbers going into the merge was great. I also just love Savage as a character. I'm sure I'd hate if he ever won, but watching his fall from grace was fun, even if I didn't like the Outcast twist. The pre-merge also had pelican Pete and Osten. Sandra was hilarious, and Jonny Fairplay was so evil it was entertaining. The grandma lie might be the funniest strategy I've seen. It's so manipulative and wrong, and me and my dad couldn't stop laughing the entire time it was going on. I normally don't love villains, but he's the exception. My only real problem with this season, other than the outcast twist, is Rupert. As a character I did not like him or how he was portrayed. It always felt like he needed everything to go his way. The way he screamed at Jonny really made me uncomfortable. He's just not a character I ever liked. Also there were a fair amount of characters who made it far who weren't super interesting like Darrah. It felt like the camera men were more interested in checking her out than telling her story.
2 Palau: I just finished watching this season so there might be some bias but I loved this season. Tom might be the only dominant winner I actually enjoyed watching, and I think part of that is because there were a few other players in the season who seemed to have a solid plan on how to get rid of him. Ian probably could have beaten him in the last challenge. Gregg could have turned Katie at the 5. Stephanie even almost got the girls together. Even though Tom was only able to be voted off twice, both times he had to work to prevent that from happening. He did so by having a relationship with Caryn when everyone else just kind of ignored her or were rude to her. He did use a lot of strong arming which wasn't fun to watch but I just really liked him. Not to mention the finale might be the saddest finale of any season where the person I think deserved to win the most won. The Ulonging was also interesting to watch. Stephenie and Bobby Jon were easy to route for, even if Guatemala might change my opinion on them. This season just had solid character moments, storylines, and an exciting vote out in Gregg.
1 Marquesas: Firstly Rob did make the pre-merge fun, and I liked him more than I didn't even though he did make homophobic remarks that I did not appreciated and soured me on him. Secondly this season has my favourite episode other than maybe the Palau finale. That episode being the John Carrol boot. The decline of the Rotu 4 was exciting to watch. Vecepia was a solid winner, though I think it helped that I knew she was going to win so I watched for her. She broke the game where they ask you about your past tribe mates because she wrote all that shit down. Her only mistake for me was making that final two with Kathy. She should have just said she was voting for Neleh and if Kathy wanted a chance she'd do the same. Finally, probably the biggest reason this is my favourite season so far is Sean Rector. He was hilarious and also insightful. I liked how this season actually took a look at the racial dynamics and how they impacted the game. Also this season cemented that I do not like the "keep us in because we're more deserving" line of thinking.
Top 25 Characters
25 Keith Famie: I liked Keith. He was fine. He lasted a while. Has the record for average numbers of days in the game so as far I'm concerned he's the G.O.A.T.
24 Stephenie LaGrossa: Again, I just watched the Guatemala pilot so I have nothing to put against Stephenie from that season. She's iconic as the last Ulong member. Her crying when she found out she was going to Koror was genuinely touching. Still, she got a bit annoying near the end, talking about how it was fair for her to go because she tried too hard. That's why she's not higher.
23 Lillian Morris: I felt bad for her. Everyone was constantly shitting on her, and her tears at the FTC were hard to watch. She was an interesting person for me, though I enjoy people who struggle with the morality of the game.
22 Ethan Zohn: Boring in Africa, but he showed a real sense of the game in All-Stars even if he had no chance.
21 Rob Cesternino: I just did no really vibe with his humour most of the time, though when it hit it was funny. He also made the game interesting at least. I also liked when he came clean to Matteo.
20 Chris Daugherty: Incredibly fun to watch at points, but at other points he was incredibly arrogant. He went from the person I wanted to win over everyone, to basically someone I only wanted to win over Twila. He was sitting next to her though, so he did something right.
19 Kathy Vavrick O'Brien: Honestly I know she said pretty rude things in All-Stars but I don't hold it against her for some reason. I should probably have her lower but I don't because I enjoyed watching her. Her underdog story in Marquesas was fun to watch, and her son was hilarious.
18 Greg Buis: He was funny. That's pretty much it.
17 Shii-Ann Huang: In Thailand she was easy to root for, and same in All-Stars. Only reason she's not higher is because she had a lot of arrogant moments that I wasn't a fan of.
16 Vecepia Towery: So much drama. Not from her, but she'd be the first to point it out. Cutthroat as heck, and thought I don't think she executed it great, I think her plan for FTC was really solid.
15 Clarence Black: Honestly if the game was for food instead of a million dollars he'd probably find a way to win.
14 Sean Kenniff: Perfected the alphabet strat. He just seemed like the last person that should be playing survivor. I loved him though, I thought he was so funny.
13 John Carrol: That Jesus imagery. His decline is great. His arrogance was perfect. I really liked him, and he played a mostly solid game, like in any season before his it was the winning strategy.
12 Kim Powers: She was just fun and added a lot to Africa.
11 T-Bird Cooper: See above. But really she was also super sweet and always nice to see on screen.
10 Eliza Orlins: Called Chris a deceptive lying bitch or something in her speech. Enough said. Also though she was super easy to root for, and even her mom understood that everyone found her annoying.
9 Tom Westman: New York Firefighter who helped in 9/11. He was 100% going to be portrayed as a hero. He was also a good though. Him killing that shark with a machete, hunting those poisonous snakes with Ian and Gregg. The Gregg vote out felt like a hit from the mob. He's not higher because of his bossiness and bully tactics. He also yelled at my boy Ian which is not okay.
8 Andrew Savage: This man is larger than life. He was satisfying to watch throughout. He gave his everything. He has a perfect life outside of survivor. He's almost too much to be real. I just really like him, even though I'm in no way upset that he lost, especially with how beautiful it was.
7 Jonny Fairplay: "I call myself Jonny Fairplay because I don't play fair." He's my favourite villain. He's also a solid player. I'm pretty sure he beats Lil, though I don't actually know all that much. He's so over the top that I'm less offended by him I think.
6 Matthew von Ertfelda: He's the only reason I didn't completely hate Amazon. He had hilarious moments, and moments where I felt really bad for him. He's the best machete sharpener in the world.
5 Sandra Diaz-Twine: Probably the best confessionals, that fish thing was cold blooded, anyone but me. I just loved every second she was on screen. Favourite winner from these seasons. "I can speak loudly too."
4 Lex Van de Berg: He felt complicated and real. My whole top 4 really felt like they were real people not just characters, even though I know everyone is a real person. We saw him trying to be good, him not being good and getting paranoid. We saw a lot out of him. I also didn't find him to be unreasonably bitter in All-Stars so yeah he's this high.
3 Jerri Manthey: Loved her in AO, loved her even more in All-Stars. Her argument with Rupert was hilarious. She felt like a villain who didn't realize she wasn't super likeable and really tried to get along with people. Or at least she didn't think she was as alienated as she was. I felt bad for her a lot of the time. Especially when she got booed off the stage at All-Stars.
2 Sean Rector: His introduction of Sarah is iconic. His trip with Paschale. Him helping orchestrate John's vote off. His confessional about why he felt betrayed by John. His willingness to talk about race. The fact that he was nowhere close to perfect. He'd yell really loudly and I know I'd hate to be talked to like that by anyone. Made him feel real.
1 Ian Rosenberger: Ian was not built for the game if survivor. Saddest storyline I've ever watched in survivor. Him giving up at the final 3 was really a fitting end. He was also really funny. I basically consider him a golden retriever. He made the end game of the season so captivating for me.
2020.06.14 04:46 ProcrastinatingVerseMy Personal Assessment of Probability of Winners at War Castaways Returning
A lot of people are saying that the majority of the Winners at War cast are not going to play again, so I thought I'd give my opinion on the probability (a % score) of each castaway returning for a future season, combining primarily their willingness to return with the likelihood of production wanting them back.
Amber Mariano - 0%
She came back because it was S40 and All Winners, plus Rob was going out there which gave a further incentive. In the end, her game was just about propping up Rob to win it for her family. If a Mariano plays again, that isn't her offspring, it'll be Rob as frankly he's better at it and has a more exciting status as a legend of the game. Was great to see Amber play again and was a shame it was so brief in the actual game, but this is it for Amber's time on Survivor.
Danni Boatwright - 85%
For someone who placed as poorly as Danni did (and received one of the worst edits of the cast), you'd think Danni's time would be over. But Danni is 100% up for playing again (and remember 10 years ago, she said she'd only come back for all winners) and was described as a get by Probst, it's clear that he likes her a lot and would want her back. Given the edit she had this season, and the prominence of others in the cast, I had to knock her back from 100%, but I would not rule out a 3rd outing for Danni, especially if they ever did an Unfinished Business season.
Ethan Zohn - 0%
I know we all love the guy, but he's had his day. He's been telling Survivor to lose his number. And it's just a miracle we got him out again. Physically he had a moment of exhaustion (I believe in an endurance challenge, he could've had a similar incident to Lauren in EoE) which led to medical checking on him. Ethan's story has come full circle and he leaves the game as he started, a fan favourite loved by all, that we all want to be.
Rob Mariano - 5%
It took a lot to get him out there this season, his farewell to production after appearing on Survivor for 188 days (36 of which he was mentoring, not playing) was a Swan song and he has stated that this is his last season playing....BUT in the EW video he follows up that announcement to say, "I've only said that like 5 other times so take it for what it's worth". He knows that there's always a chance he'll play again. I could see Rob playing again in S50 or S60. It will likely be a Legends season of some kind. But who knows when that will come. So until then, he's out of operation.
Sandra Diaz-Twine - 60%
Very high for someone who said they were retiring after this season, amirite? Yet she joked on Instagram that she was gonna play in S50 and "can never say no to Probst". This is freakin Sandra. I always knew after how this season played out, her ego would not let her retire this way. If her next game ends in the way she wants, then she'll retire. But Sandra ain't going out like this. If she is getting urges to play again, and production will always welcome Sandra with open arms, expect an inevitable Sandra 5.0.
Parvati Shallow - 15%
Lately Parv has been saying this is it, but I don't think it is. 1. Her final outing will be her worst performance to date, something which it's known that she is not that happy with. 2. She has already wavered in the past on playing again ("You can never really say never as you always end up wanting to go back for more"). 3. The only thing which stopped her from playing again was really her newborn. If her daughter gets older, she'll find it easier to play again. And 4. Her HvV experience was not a positive one, this was much more so. That more positive outcome will make her more open to playing again. Production will have Parv back in a heartbeat, so it comes down to her. It may be unlikely, but for stated reasons, I'm not ruling it out, especially for a Legends season.
Yul Kwon - 20%
He doesn't have as much game fatigue as the "Idols of Survivor" . But it was a shock he played again. And plus Yul is getting older so I don't know about Yul. He might go for a 3rd time for a Legends season, and I know production love him which helps. I just don't know if Yul wants to go again.
Wendell Holland - 90%
Loved by production is a big bonus, and I'm sure the reasonable majority of fans would be welcome to see him play again. Although he's "full up on Survivor for now", he has also said "the marathon continues". I think a Wendell 3.0 is inevitable.
Adam Klein - 100%
Adam was a great character this season. He loves the game, the fans and production love him. He's young and not fatigued. Adam WILL be back.
Tyson Apostol - 95%
"They'll just call me every few years and I'll say yes". This is a Survivor legend who is up for playing again. Even if we wait a while, I'd be very shocked if Tyson doesn't join the 5 timers club.
Sophie Clarke - 100%
Perhaps not a forefront of the cast for Probst, but fans have warmed up to her, hardcores loooove her. Players have immense respect for her. And I think she'd definitely say yes for another go as the desire is within her. Sophie will most likely play again.
Kim Spradlin Wolfe - 25%
I could see Kim wanting to play again after a period of cool down. I put her in a position where by, it'll be when the time feels right for her and if it's the appropriate season. Though Kim isn't a rule out for me, she's not rushing to play again and I don't see it happening for a while.
Jeremy Collins - 10%
Sorry folks but he's out. I think he'll have more persuasion to return than Rob, due to him not having played as many times, but it'll only be for milestone seasons. It sucks because Jeremy is incredibly popular with all fans and production, but when someone feels like they don't need to play again and has expressed adamantly that they're good ending it here, odds are, they won't come back.
Nick Wilson - 100%
Nick's a young face, another popular player with all fans, and someone else liked by production. If they want reps from S40 he's an easy call and I foresee Nick getting a 3rd chance in the future, of which he'll say yes to.
Denise Stapley - 45%
Denise is a tricky one. Being the Queenslayer has rocketed her popularity and notability, but I don't feel like she had as much fun this time. Players were harder on her, fans were brutal and production may go for other WaW players above her. But IIRC, Denise is another "give me enough time and I'll play again" winner (may need someone to fact check this) so I won't rule it out. I think Denise has reason to play once more (more unfinished business), it comes down to both production and herself.
Ben Driebergen - 50%
This is a real 50/50. I put Ben this high because production ADORE Ben. Probst says he's his favourite winner (which is logically inept and typical of Probst's hard on for BIG MOVEZ/IDOL PLAYZ). Ben knows this. But Ben also knows that fans are polarised on him, with you either loving or hating his style of play. In addition, players have little respect for Ben as a player, so that won't have him rushing back. I think it will come down to if Ben wants to play again. Seeing how he essentially resigned at the final 5, right now I'd say no. But I could also see things changing down the line, and if they do and he's up for it, brave yourselves for Ben 3.0. Hence why I'm putting him right at 50%.
Sarah Lacina - 55%
Yet another player popular with production (pretty much no one here isn't popular with production), Sarah is another mystery. She's a great player and someone who was at her peak this season. She doesn't seem to feel as bad coming out of this as she did Game Changers. They add up for a yes. But I think Sarah could say no due to the fact that fans constantly bite at her for being boring (which tbh, who cares). But also, I think she resents that players don't give her the credit she thinks she deserves. It's a toss-up on Sarah, but I definitely think she'll be asked to play again, and will likely come down to how she feels in the moment.
Michele Fitzgerald - 100%
Lock for 3rd Time. 2 time finalist. Fan Favourite. Nuff Said.
Natalie Anderson - 100%
Edge Queen has a great narrative going for a 3rd time. Nat's style of play is always popular, and rumour has it production have her top billed for a 3rd time. I see her coming back (and I'm all for it!)
Tony Vlachos - 40%
Alas, the winner of Winners. I think Tony will be more willing due to how successful this season was for him. And if the Queen came back after HvV, why can't the King? Of course, I don't think Tony has the same mileage as Sandra, and he has 2 young children. Plus as a cop, he might not have an easy time being able to drop it all for Survivor. Tony may be another "only for Legends season" player, or if asked and he's up to it, he could go out again. Ultimately, I don't like to rule anybody out unless I think it's unrealistic to suggest otherwise, as people can have changes of heart. So to recap: Never playing again: Amber, Ethan. Depends on the Season: Rob, Jeremy, Parvati, Yul, Kim, Tony (*) If they're up to it: Tony (*), Denise, Ben, Sarah, Sandra () If Production Says yes: Danni They'll be back: Sandra (*), Tyson, Adam, Wendell, Sophie, Natalie, Michele, Nick
Welcome to the second round of the survivor Bachelor! Yesterday, we asked you judges to eliminate one bachelor.. and the first person voted out is.... Ben Driebergen Now, we’re taking a different approach, today now the question is. Who IS your boyfriend! Good Luck Judges, tomorrow the person with the LEAST votes is gonna be eliminated http://www.strawpoll.me/19395509 Vote Here ^ GOOOOD LUCK Keep in Mind, you can date: Adam Klein Ethan Zohn Jeremy Collins Nick Wilson Boston Rob Tony Vlachos Tyson Apostol Wendell Holland Yul Kwon
2020.02.02 12:32 SchizoidGodThe /r/survivor All-Winners Survivor: ROUND 33 (THE FINAL 6!!!)
Welcome to the THIRTY-THIRD round of the official All-Winners Survivor! Last round had probably the biggest range of targets of any vote we’ve had here. At least 4 people were looked at as potential vote outs, but one got a clear majority - and it wasn’t the person I was expecting at all. Tom Westman, winner of Survivor: Palau, is one of the most unique winners in Survivor history. A true alpha male, he dominated the other tribe and then his own without even having to lift a finger. He had such an interesting character and is my single favourite instance of a ‘hero’ in Survivor history - and probably the most complex one to date. Such a shame he couldn’t be on S40. THE FINAL 6! THE FINALE! Those are words that I never thought I’d be typing out. What’s most interesting to me is that none of the winners left are Parvatis, Sandras, Robs or Richards. They’re all slightly more UTR. This has played out EXACTLY like a real Survivor game - the very top and the very bottom of the winner spectrum have all been taken out, and what we’re left with here are people that aren’t quite considered legends (alright, except Tina), but are maybe - just maybe - better than everyone else. Vote a winner OUT! CLICK HERE TO VOTE! WINNERS REMAINING
2019.12.31 01:33 touch_my_tra-la-laS40 Birthdays + All Winners + Interesting Facts
Because you all seem to care so much when I make astrological contributions (/s) I’ve decided to compile all winners and do a couple statistics based on my results. In astrological order (Aries-Pisces) here are the 20 Winners at War: Natalie Anderson- April 11th, 1986 Jeremy Collins- April 16th, 1978 Michele Fitzgerald- May 5th, 1990 Nick Wilson- June 11th, 1990 Tyson Apostol- June 17th, 1979 Sarah Lacina- July 9th, 1984 Sophie Clarke- July 10th, 1989 Danni Boatwright- July 13th, 1975 Sandra Diaz-Twine- July 30th, 1974 Amber Mariano- August 11th, 1978 Tony Vlachos- September 10th, 1973 Parvati Shallow- September 21st, 1982 Ethan Zohn- November 12th, 1973 Rob Mariano- December 25th, 1975 Denise Stapley- January 1st, 1971 Ben Driebergen- January 1st, 1983 Adam Klein- January 15th, 1991 Kim Spradlin- January 30th, 1983 Yul Kwon- February 14th, 1975 Wendell Holland- March 8th, 1984 Aries: 2 Taurus: 1 Gemini: 2 Cancer: 3 Leo: 2 Virgo: 2 Libra 0 (or 1, Parvati is exactly on the Virgo/Libra cusp) Scorpio: 1 Sagittarius: 0 Capricorn: 4 Aquarius: 2 Pisces: 1 And just for the hell of it, since I was already on the winners list, here are the remaining winners not on season 40: Richard Hatch- April 8th, 1961 Earl Cole- April 9th, 1971 Natalie White- April 22nd, 1983 Fabio Birza- June 12th, 1989 JT Thomas- June 23rd, 1984 Mike Holloway- July 25th, 1976 Chris Daugherty- August 29th, 1970 Aras Baskauskas September 26th, 1981 Chris Underwood- October 6th, 1992 Tommy Sheehan- October 26th, 1992 Vecepia Towrey- December 9th, 1965 Tina Wesson- December 26th, 1960 Tom Westman- January 4th, 1964 John Cochran- January 17th, 1987 Todd Herzog January 29th, 1985 Jenna Morasca- February 15th, 1981 Bob Crowley- February 25th, 1951 Brian Heidik- March 9th, 1968 Overall, we have: 4 Aries 2 Taurans 3 Geminis 3 Cancers 3 Leos (4, if you count Sandra’s second win) 3 Virgos 1 Libra 2 Scorpios 1 Sagittarius 7 Capricorns 4 Aquarians 3 Pisces Capricorn’s account for 17% of all winners, almost doubling the second/third runners up in Aries and Aquarius tied with 10% each. There are more Capricorn’s on season 40 than any other sign, and if one of the four playing (Adam, Rob, Ben, and Denise) wins again, Capricorn’s will account for 1/5th, or 20% of winners. Other fun facts: Tommy is the youngest person on the winner’s list (not the youngest person to win the game) who is only 20 days younger than Chris Underwood, who won the season right before his. The oldest is Bob Crowley, who has 9 years on Tina Wesson, the second oldest winner. Both Ben and Denise are born on January 1st. According to this article, January 1st, December 25th, December 24th, and July 4th are the least common birthdays of the year, making it very interesting that 3 of our 20 WaW fall under these dates! For anyone interested in a full ranking of common birth dates, you’re welcome ! Boston Rob is December 25th while Tina is December 26th, Todd is January 29th while Kim is January 30th, Yul is February 14th while Jenna is February 15th, Wendell is March 8th while Brian is March 9th, Hatch is April 8th while Earl is April 9th, Nick is June 11th while Fabio is June 12th, and Sarah is July 9th while Sophie is July 10th. Those are a lot of back-to-back birthdays, accounting for 14/39 winners, or 35.8%. If there’s anything I missed, or any other interesting birthday/sign facts, please let me know and I’ll keep adding to this! Thanks
2019.05.22 04:06 1stswordofbraavosSeason 40 In Depth Winner Profile #1
With today supposedly being day 1 for season 40 I've decided to each day do a deep dive into how each winner is set up going into this season. I will be looking into their reputation, the style of game we have seen them play so far and finally some speculation into the relationships they might have with some of the winners. I will be using this post by turtle494 when referencing who is following who on social media. Winner Profile 1: Ethan Zohn (3,8) Ethan Zohn is the classic old school survivor player. Ethan won the game by making an alliance with his starting tribe and sticking with it all the way to the end. His brand is definitely trustworthiness. We got to see him plotting and scheming a little more in All-Stars with the target on his back but Ethan's legacy in Survivor is of the ultimate nice guy that everyone was happy to see win. The game that Ethan won in Africa is very different than the Survivor we see today and it will be very interesting to see how Ethan adapts to the modern game. Ethan and Amber are the only two members of this cast to have never played in a season with hidden immunity idols. S40 Cast Connections Ethan and Amber briefly dated some time before All-Stars. This was long enough ago that I doubt either really cares anymore but it is interesting. Ethan and Rob both played on All-Stars but were never on the same tribe. They likely know each other decently well as many old school players saw a lot of each other at events back then. Rob called him pretty boy during a challenge on all-stars. Neither follows the other on social media. Not sure if they would work together or not but there could be an old school alliance. April 13, 2016 Ethan attended the New York live Know-It-Alls where Natalie Anderson and Jeremy Collins were both in attendance so they have at least met. Adam, Jeremy, Michele, Natalie and Parvati are the only cast members that he follows on twitter. I believe Paravti and Jenna were friends at some point so maybe when he and Jenna were together they met. He and Adam have the cancer connection. Does anyone else know any other connections Ethan might have to the other players? How do you guys think Ethan will do? Edit: Parvati attended Ethan's wedding as seen in this post. Thanks to InternationalLeague for the info.
Ethan's luxury item on Survivor: Africa was a hacky sack. He gave it away on a trip to a local African village.
Ethan is the only castaway from Africa to never receive an elimination vote.
Ethan is the first male to reach the Final Tribal Council without receiving a single vote against him.
Ethan was the first male winner to have every person they vote against at Tribal Council leave the game.
Ethan is the first Jewish player to win the title of Sole Survivor.
Ethan was the first person to earn the title of Sole Survivor and not win in a 4-3 vote.
Ethan is the first Sole Survivor to win with more than four jury votes.
Ethan was the first castaway in their twenties to become the Sole Survivor.
At the Africa Reunion Show, Bryant Gumbel mispronounced Ethan's name as Ethan Zorn.
In Survivor: All-Stars, Ethan lasted in the game longer than the other past Sole Survivors (Tina Wesson, Richard Hatch, and Jenna Morasca).
Ethan was the only former winner in All-Stars to survive a vote in which a non-winner was voted out.
Ethan once held the record for the longest days lasted without getting voted off with 60 days. His streak was broken by Amanda Kimmel.
Ethan was the only returning player from Survivor: Africa to be eliminated before the merge in All-Stars.
Ethan is one of seven Sole Survivors (along with Jenna, Richard, Rob, Tom Westman, Tony Vlachos and Sandra Diaz-Twine) to play more than once and not be a member of the jury in any season.
In her Heroes vs. Villains profile, Jerri Manthey listed Ethan as the past Survivor contestant she respects the most.
Ethan and Jenna are the second Survivor couple to compete in The Amazing Race, following Rob Mariano and Amber Brkich. The pairs were followed by Keith Tollefson and Whitney Duncan.
In an interview on Rob Has a Podcast, it was revealed that Ethan and Jenna were considered to return in Survivor: South Pacific, after applying for The Amazing Race. The couple declined the offer, saying they were not interested in competing against each other.
In a Survivor Oz interview, it was revealed by Corinne Kaplan that she and Ethan dated after he won Africa.
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Going through old issues of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter and posting highlights in my own words. For anyone interested, I highly recommend signing up for the actual site at f4wonline and checking out the full archives. PREVIOUS YEARS ARCHIVE: 1991 • 1992 • 1993 • 1994 • 1995 • 1996 • 1997 • 1998 • 1999
The issue starts with a final look at some business numbers for 1999. First, WWF: attendance increased 20% over 1998 numbers. TV rating average increased from 4.40 average in 1998 to a 6.04 average in 1999 which is a 37% increase. PPV buyrates went up 23%. In 1998, they sold out 33.5% of shows. In 1999, they sold out 63%. Live gate increased an average 52%. So on and so forth. Needless to say, 1999 was by far the biggest year in WWF history. Then there's WCW: attendance fell 46%. Ratings dropped 18%. PPV buyrates fell a staggering 41% which is what accounts for a lot of the red ink in their books this year. Sellouts dropped. Live gates down were 14% and would have been more but increased ticket prices helped keep it from being that bad. On to Japan! AJPW attendance down 3.8%. TV ratings up but the average was skewed by the monster ratings from post-Baba death shows. NJPW attendance was down 5% but TV ratings were up significantly so that's good news.
Vince McMahon appeared on Paula Zohn's show on Fox News to talk about the XFL. Dave spends a lot of time examining Vince's statement that there will be no drug testing in the XFL, looks at the criticisms of the NFL's testing system, WWF's history with steroids, etc. Vince also said the XFL wouldn't hire players with felony convictions, unlike the NFL, although misdemeanors are still okay. Dave mentions that the WWF does do background checks on new talent already. Vince lashed out at investment analysts who downgraded the WWF stock after the XFL announcement and claimed all the wrestlers in the company are on board with the XFL idea. Dave disagrees and says none of the wrestlers he's talked to are happy about it but of course, none of them are going to tell Vince that. WWF is in the midst of TV rights negotiations right now and are trying to leverage their success to get a good TV deal for the XFL as well. Dave breaks down all the potential issues if WWF ends up on FOX or TNN or stays on USA and how the Smackdown deal with UPN is complicating matters. No one really knows what Vince's plans are with this league right now and Dave talks about the complications regarding team ownership and all the huge hurdles XFL is going to have to get over in order to be successful. With the year of hype for the debut, Dave predicts the XFL will be big when it starts, just from the curiosity factor, but the product better be good. You only get one chance to make a first impression. But no matter how good it turns out to be and no matter how many cool new concepts (like cameras all over the field) he comes up with, the reality is that the NFL has far more money and they will steal those concepts and steal any new stars that the XFL creates. And Dave doesn't see Vince willingly sitting by and being 2nd best for long without fighting back. And that's when Vince resorts to what Vince knows: gimmicks, working storylines, possibly fixing games to protect stars, etc. Following the stock drop, McMahon wrote an article in the New York Daily News explaining his decision to start a league. It was clear from the article that McMahon's knowledge of football doesn't extend past Ernie Ladd and Wahoo McDaniel, football players who later became wrestlers (I think Dave talked about that recently too. Talking about an interview during this time where Vince was asked who his favorite football players were and he answered Ladd and Wahoo, which is about the point that most people realized that Vince doesn't know fuck-all about football).
McMahon was also on a radio show in San Francisco promoting the XFL but the conversation instead turned to the recent ABC 20/20 story about Mick Foley. The 20/20 piece had talked about all the damage Foley had done to his body over the years and concussions and all that stuff and also featured interviews with not only Foley, but his wife also. McMahon trashed the 20/20 story saying it was a sensationalized negative hit piece. One of the radio hosts pointed out that Mick Foley's wife made some of the strongest comments on the show. McMahon responded and compared Foley's wife's comments to the famous Robin Givens/Mike Tyson interview on 20/20 back in the 80s and said Foley should never let his wife do another interview. "It reminded you of Robin Givens and Mike Tyson doing that interview where poor Mike Tyson is sitting there and Robin Givens is talking all about him," Vince said. (For those of you not as old as me: Givens and Tyson were married in 1988 and they were interviewed together on 20/20. During the interview, Givens basically said "this guy abuses me" while Tyson was sitting there beside her. It was pretty dark and fucked up and made more fucked up by the fact that people turned on her for it. She was seen as a money-hungry fame whore. Anyway, Foley wrote about this in his book. He was none too happy with Vince about it).
Lots more WCW turmoil this week, starting first with Sabu. He was originally scheduled to debut on Nitro last week but as explained in the last issue, it turns out his contract with ECW is pretty legit and Heyman has him locked down. Sabu claims ECW breached his contract by being late on PPV payoffs but the contract stipulates that any claim of a breach must be filed in court and that ECW then has 90 days to make it right. Sabu has never even gone to court to claim it was breached so until he does, he's still locked into a perfectly valid contract and ECW still has 3 months after that to make it right before Sabu could actually be free. In the meantime, Paul Heyman has pretty much said he's got no interest in bringing Sabu back anymore either, but he doesn't want to let him out of his contract without getting something from WCW in return. So Sabu's in limbo right now (yup this is pretty much it for Sabu and ECW. He works 2 more house shows next week but then he's gone and never returns).
And there's a similar situation with Chris Candido and Tammy Sytch, who were scheduled to debut for WCW at the Thunder tapings but turns out they both still have valid contracts with ECW also. Neither has been paid in months because they haven't worked but they also haven't filed the legal paperwork necessary to claim breach of contract and they're basically being used as pawns in the ECW vs. WCW war right now. Heyman has no use for either of them but he's not going to willingly let them go to WCW without something for them either.
More Scott Hall drama, as WCW is in Europe this week. When leaving the U.S. for Germany, Hall got on the plane and looked like he hadn't slept in days. He ended up getting sick on the plane and was "in no condition to perform" on the first night of the tour. But hey, being in no condition to perform never stopped WCW in the past, and so Scott Hall was still sent out to the ring and he did perform. As punishment for his behavior though, he was told to put over David Finlay, which he did. During the entire tour, Hall was said to be barely functional every night, but he still went out and wrestled on all the shows. There were also incidents at bars every night with Hall trying to fight people and on one occasion, throwing a cake at his girlfriend. Finally, when they went to leave, he arrived at the airport in such bad shape that authorities wouldn't let him on the plane. So he missed Nitro this week because he was still stuck in Europe while everyone else came back. It totally wrecked WCW's plans because Hall was supposed to be involved in a major angle that would have put him into a triple threat match for the PPV main event. Yes, despite this kind of behavior being common for Scott Hall, he is still booked to be in the main event of SuperBrawl for the WCW title. Anyway, Hall did finally make it back in time for the Thunder taping the next night where they had an interview angle planned where Hall would hit Jeff Jarrett with the guitar (it sounds like this was supposed to be a backstage pre-tape). But Hall was totally shit-faced and couldn't get anything right and talked about breaking the guitar over Terry Taylor's head instead of Jarrett's and the whole thing dragged on for about 30 minutes and literally held up the taping, before they finally made the call to scrap Hall from it. Hall left the arena and they ended up having Jarrett hit Terry Taylor instead. Right now, Hall's future in the company is uncertain, with a lot of people feeling like this might be the last straw (yup, this was finally the last straw for Hall. He does indeed main event SuperBrawl, but that ends up being his final appearance ever in WCW. Hall has admitted in interviews that the whole European trip incident is what finally what got him fired. Turns out that girlfriend he threw a cake at was the niece of TNT President Brad Siegel and apparently Hall had cheated on her while they were there or something and it was a big fight. I dunno all the details, but it was enough that Siegel finally sent Hall packing and refused to bring him back. No matter how hard Nash spent the rest of 2000 trying to change his mind....we'll get to that).
Hulk Hogan's return to WCW last week has morale sinking again, as a lot of people were upset by his recent comments where he said Billy Kidman couldn't main event a flea market. It pretty much confirmed to all the midcard wrestlers exactly what they've always thought, that people like Hogan at the top are determined to keep them down. Hogan's return led to Chris Kanyon asking for his release. Kanyon has been upset for awhile, citing the fact that he's never been given a push after being there for 5 years, but he is also good friends with Kidman and he said Hogan's comments were the final straw and just proves that the midcard guys will never be able to move up in WCW. Bill Busch offered Kanyon a raise to stay but no word if he accepted it. A lot of WCW guys have seen the way that WWF has actually pushed Chris Benoit as a real star and now more than ever, they want out of WCW for the greener WWF pastures.
Hardbody Harrison, Bobby Walker, and Sonny Onoo filed a racial discrimination lawsuit against WCW in Atlanta last week. The lawsuit claims all 3 were forced to portray demeaning stereotypical minority roles and also claimed white performers made more money. It also mentioned the example of Buff Bagwell appearing in blackface for a match against Ernest Miller and claimed that racist jokes were often printed out and posted around WCW's offices. The lawsuit also argues that wrestlers should be classified as company employees rather than independent contractors. Dave says there's actually a long history in the Atlanta area, dating back to Thunderbolt Patterson in the 70s, of wrestlers claiming racial discrimination and/or filing lawsuits. Seems to be a pretty common problem there. Harrison claims he lost his job because he's black and is looking to get his contract re-instated. Dave says to be honest, Harrison and Walker are both pretty terrible workers and it's going to be difficult to prove they were fired because of their race. And he thinks Sonny Onoo's involvement in this lawsuit is laughable, since Onoo is one of Eric Bischoff's best friends and was arguably his closest confidant in the company and says that Onoo himself helped create the character he played. Not to say there's not racism in WCW, but Dave is calling bullshit on Onoo's claim.
Dave goes off on a long and really random side note about wrestling newsletters. He talks about the first wrestling newsletter, called Matmania back in the 60s and talks about how it was the first to start really hinting about things outside of kayfabe, which later inspired Mat News, the newsletter Mike Tenay put out. Dave got a recent copy of Matmania from 1966 and talks about how different it is and....sorta recaps the news. OMG. Dave is doing a Matmania Rewind! Holy shit you guys, we're going meta! Dave mostly just seems to be in awe of everything he's learning about this period of the business that he was too young to remember, especially just from reading results and seeing how big the crowds were they were drawing back then and how they would run twice-weekly shows in Los Angeles, drawing thousands of fans or how crazy the travel was back then. Ray Stevens was working as a regular in San Francisco, Los Angeles, Vancouver, Seattle, and Texas and still found time to fly out and work shows in Australia also. He's also amazed by all the international news coverage in this newsletter, talking about shows in England and France (including one show featuring a 20-year-old giant named Jean Ferre who of course later became Andre The Giant). All told, Dave is just fascinated by how much the business has changed but how it also stays the same. Many of the same ups and downs the business deals with today were apparent in reading this newsletter from 1966 and knowing how things have changed since. Pffft, yeah right. Like there's anything interesting about looking back on old newsletters with the benefit of hindsight...
WCW Nitro lost the ratings war again this week, except this time Raw wasn't on the other channel. They lost to the Westminster Dog Show instead. Raw ended up airing after the dog show, late at night....and still won. Even the Raw segments that aired after midnight did better ratings than Nitro had done unopposed in prime time.
Lots of rumors regarding the future of AJPW. Word is company president Mitsuharu Misawa and the owner, Motoko Baba (widow of Giant Baba) aren't getting along and that the company may end up splitting into 2 groups. And if it happens, it's possible the NTV television deal may go with Misawa because pretty much all of the wrestlers are reportedly siding with Misawa in this power struggle. Nobody's really talking about it publicly now so details are scarce (yup, this is pretty much exactly what happens and leads to the formation of NOAH but that's still a few months away).
Last year, Antonio Inoki announced another show in North Korea would take place this month but it was officially cancelled this week. Dave had been told months ago that it wasn't happening, but Inoki kept talking about it and promoting it as if it was. In the end, Inoki claims the U.S. Pentagon stepped in somehow to prevent the show from happening at the last minute, but again, Dave knew months ago that it wasn't happening. So as always, take anything Inoki says with a grain of salt.
Beyond The Mat failed to get an Academy Award nomination. It was on the short list to be narrowed down to the final 5 but didn't quite make it. The movie still has premieres in select cities before rolling out nationwide next month. Even though Mick Foley is the star, neither he nor anyone else from WWF will be allowed to promote it because Vince McMahon is the only person in the wrestling business who doesn't like the movie. Foley tried to promote it during an appearance on Good Morning America a few weeks ago and McMahon was furious about it and won't let anyone in the company talk about it. WCW has no involvement in the film, but they're allowing Terry Funk to do any promotion he wants for it and WCW announcers aren't banned from talking about it and in fact they have mentioned it a time or two already during broadcasts.
Carly Colon, after only a few weeks as a pro wrestler, has already won WWC's Universal title. Must be good to be the promoter's son. Of course, this is early-career Carlito.
TNN did a media press conference that was also attended by Rob Van Dam and Joey Styles. When asked about his injury, RVD said he has a 3-inch crack in his fibula and a broken ankle joint and it will be about 12 weeks before he can return to the ring. There's been talks of a TV title tournament which means he'll likely be vacating that belt soon. As for ECW, they talked about the possibility of doing special ECW events on TNN in the future. When asked about the rumors of WWF coming to TNN and how that would affect ECW, the TNN exec had no comment. Mmmmmhmm.....
During a match at a house show in ECW, Justin Credible went through a table and somehow a piece broke off and...went into his mouth and got caught in his throat. Credible, as you might expect, panicked, but fortunately he was able to dislodge it and turned out to be okay. Yikes.
Various ECW notes: Pitbull #1 came back to work some shows but nobody remembered who he was so the crowd didn't care. Elektra missed a show last week because she freaked out and refused to get on the airplane I guess, claiming a fear of flying. But she's back this week. Gedo and Jado are scheduled to come in for a few weeks to work some shows. Gedo, you treacherous bastard, I hope someone puts you through a table...
On ECW on TNN this week, they continued having Cyrus play a heel TNN executive, and he cut a promo saying the network only cares about ECW delivering a strong lead-in for RollerJam. Dave says they didn't just come up with this character for shits and giggles, there's a reason for it and there's a lot of tension between ECW and TNN right now.
Notes from Nitro: Miss Hancock danced on the announce table during a match (I only include this because good GOD the crush 15-year-old me had on Stacy Keibler in these days is unspeakable). The KISS Demon jobbed to Booker T in a short match. The Demon still gets this big elaborate entrance but then ends up treated like a jobber in everything he does. Apparently WCW has a contract with KISS that they have to fulfill, so he still has to be on TV wrestling but they've turned him into a total jobber because now that Bischoff is gone, WCW has no interest in the character, but they're stuck with it due to the contract. Sid Vicious was cut open legit from a Jeff Jarrett guitar shot and got a concussion that caused him to miss the Thunder taping the next night.
Speaking of Sid, he was upset with Mark Madden after the show. During Nitro, there was something to do with a three-way match and Mark Madden said that Sid was the "monkey in the middle" of the angle, which is of course just a reference to a kids game. Someone told Sid that Madden had called him a monkey on commentary and he was furious about it and confronted Madden. He tried to explain that he meant no ill-will but maybe due to being groggy or in a bad mood from the concussion, Sid wasn't interested in hearing Madden's explanation.
After Scott Steiner was suspended due to his promo on Nitro last week, Steiner ran into Ric Flair as he was leaving the building and they had a nasty altercation. No word on what was said but there's obvious heat between the two men, which is what led Steiner to cut the promo to begin with. Anyway, Steiner has been suspended with pay, which most of the other wrestlers are jokingly calling a paid vacation because nobody in WCW is ever really punished for anything.
Despite the trailers looking terrible, "Ready To Rumble" actually got very high scores on exit polls from people who saw early screenings last week (what? HOW? It's so bad....)
Rey Mysterio appeared on the Observer online show last week and said that Konnan is serving a 2-month suspension, but will be back in April. Guess that's the punishment for threatening to leave last month. Turns out some people get punished, just not the top stars. Mysterio also talked about his various knee injuries, including a recent near-tear of his PCL which would have been career threatening.
Shane Douglas has still refused to sign his release, which would have given him a 60-day severance pay. So now, WCW has officially given him notice that they plan to terminate his contract in 30 days. Basically, both Douglas and Konnan are being punished for being part of the group that led the mutiny when the Radicalz left, but since both of them backed down when it came time to actually leave, now WCW is trying to get rid of them both and they're fighting to stay. Douglas went online and has threatened legal action against WCW if they terminate him.
Speaking of, Billy Kidman was also on the Observer show and said he chose to stay with WCW after Benoit, Eddie, Saturn, and Malenko all cut off contact with him. He openly questioned whether it was the right move and whether or not he should have stayed, but he did. He said he was promised a feud with Jeff Jarrett, but then Jarrett ended up being pushed as a main eventer and now suddenly that's no longer happening.
Jim Duggan apparently threw a fit backstage at Nitro over something they asked him to do. No word what it was, but Duggan refused, saying that WCW had already made him look like enough of a fool. He ended up not appearing on the show at all.
The long-term plan for WCW right now is to build up to Goldberg vs. Tank Abbott to headline Starrcade at the end of the year. Abbott has been knocking out people with his KO punch finisher in short matches and the hope is that he'll get over the way Goldberg did. Dave says the problem now will be getting most of the locker room to allow themselves to do clean jobs to a punch. But that's the goal.
WCW valet Midnight asked for her release and was given it. She's hoping to go to WWF (nope. Disappeared into obscurity).
Terry Funk has agreed to do an exploding ring match with Atsushi Onita in the U.S. if they can find a way to get it on PPV. It's already been announced as happening later this year on PPV, but there doesn't seem to actually be any agreements in place (yeah, this never happens).
A small publishing company in Canada is releasing a biography about Bret Hart called "The Best There Is, The Best There Was, The Best There Ever Will Be." It's being written by Toronto Sun writer Perry Lefko and Bret Hart is being listed as a co-writer. Hart does write the acknowledgements at the end of the book, but that's it. Roddy Piper wrote the foreword. This is not the lengthy autobiography that Hart has talked about writing at some point in the future.
Jim Duggan filmed a show called Biker's Court that they were trying to sell for syndication at the NATPE convention last week. Dave says it's like Judge Judy meets Jerry Springer, with bikers as jurors, half naked female bailiff, and Duggan, with his 2x4, as the judge. "A typical episode is a midget smoker who is suing the tobacco companies claiming smoking stunted his growth and asked for compensation for a multi-million dollar NBA career that he didn't have." And yes, I have video.
Both Bret Hart and Sting went on the recent Germany tour but neither of them wrestled. Sting did run-ins during the shows and Hart did interviews where he talked about his fond memories of Germany and was greeted with loud chants of "Owen!" Bret said he wants his eventual retirement match to be in Germany but said he didn't plan to retire that soon (unbeknownst to him at the time, he was already retired).
Speaking of, WCW cancelled some house shows that were booked for April in Canada. With Bret still out injured and the loss of Benoit, they felt they wouldn't be able to draw fans to a non-TV event in Canada, so they just cancelled the shows entirely.
Hulk Hogan appeared on the Don Imus radio show and confirmed he has creative control in his contract and outright said that he won't be losing anymore matches. Well okay then.
On Raw, Papi Chulo re-debuted using the name Essa Rios and was accompanied by former ECW valet Miss Congeniality, using the name Lita. The match didn't get much of a reaction aside from one spot where Lita did a killer hurricanrana outside the ring, which got a big pop.
When reviewing Smackdown, Dave notes that WWF has been putting a lot more emphasis on in-ring action in recent weeks and it's working. In the past, during the Russo era, crowds usually died as soon as the bell rang or spent the entire match looking towards the back waiting for the angle. But now they're slowly focusing more on the wrestling and the crowds are starting to react and get into the matches in a big way.
Regarding WCW wrestlers who WWF may have interest in, here's the lay of the land: WWF reportedly has no interest in Shane Douglas, Konnan, or Kevin Nash, all three of whom have unofficially reached out to WWF in recent weeks through intermediaries. WWF is interested in bringing in Ric Flair if he can get out of his contract, but that doesn't seem to be happening. There's some interest in DDP and he has also given word that he's interested, but WWF won't pay him nearly what he's making in WCW so that's probably a no-go. Everyone else is mostly just watching to see how things play out with Benoit, Guerrero, etc.
More media coverage on the XFL. A big story in the Philadelphia Inquirer said the NFL is basically the most bulletproof thing in sports and an XFL vs. NFL battle would be like an ant trying to stop an elephant. But they also said don't count out McMahon because he knows his target demographic better than anyone and he's not hindered by having a conscience. But in the end, it said the fact that it's going to be lower quality players than the NFL and the valid concerns that McMahon will try to fix the games will probably sink it.
Chyna appeared on Jay Leno's show, breaking the unofficial streak of only having WCW stars on it. She came off well, not in character, and was charming and likable and not at all like most wrestlers who appear on talk shows.
Four of Shawn Michaels' students received tryouts at the Smackdown tapings last week and all 4 were offered developmental contracts afterwards. The 4 students were Lance Cade, Shooter Shultz, American Dragon and Spanky (not sure what happened to Shultz but the other 3 obviously went on to have varying degrees of success).
The Rock is expected to host Saturday Night Live in March.
Fun fact, the character of Joey Abs in the Mean Street Posse was supposed to be played by Canadian wrestler Joe E. Legend but the night the gimmick was set to debut, there was an issue with Legend's visa. So the role went to Jason Ahrndt instead (Legend later ended up in WWF for a minute under the name Just Joe and has bounced around the indies ever since).
Dave recaps a recent news story that talked about the reason Benoit & Co. all left WCW and talked about the downfall of WCW in general. The story noted that Russo was let go because of concerns over the content of the shows he was booking, which actually isn't true. In reality, it's because live attendance was falling at a scary rate. A WCW spokesman acknowledged the concerns over Sullivan being made the new booker as the reason why those guys wanted out and said they were released because "We cannot allow talent to dictate to management how to run the company."
An absurd amount of letters this week. And speaking of, the first one is someone who writes in and actually thinks WCW made the right decision when it comes to Benoit, saying no matter how talented he and the rest of those guys are, the company can't just give in to ultimatums from employees just because they don't like the booker. Dave says that's simplifying the issue too much, because there were a lot of bad decisions beforehand that led to that moment, mostly stemming from the hiring and then abrupt firing of Vince Russo and all the chaos that caused. Most people in the company felt Terry Taylor should have been made the booker and if he had, none of this would have happened. He also is still amazed that WCW would know all of this was happening and then STILL chose to make Benoit the champion the day before he walked. Dave agrees that you can't let the inmates run the asylum, but it was WCW's repeated fuck-ups that let things ever get that far to begin with.
The rest of the letters: debates over last issue's Wrestler of the Century stuff, whether WWF and WCW have gone too far with the sexual exploitation of the women, WWF stocks, Rock and Dynamite Kid's books, and then finally one last hilarious letter about Battlebots for some reason:
How can a family oriented company like Time Warner carry the Battlebots PPV? This event is nothing more than robot cockfighting. Does a robot have to DIE before legislation is made against this barbaric display of android violence? If I want to see robots fighting to the death, I'll hang outside at the bar in "Star Wars" on a Saturday night. I'm forwarding this to Sen. John McCain. I'm sure he'll share my outrage. Then again, I hear he was in the pocket of the Nevada State Animatronics Commission. Shame on you Time Warner. Kevin Dillon Albion, New York
FRIDAY:WCW SuperBrawl fallout, more on Sabu/ECW/WCW drama, more on Scott Hall's European adventure, Hogan talks more shit, and more...
2018.05.22 15:26 arh1387Were voters/viewers played after all?
Read this article on The Washington Post this morning and an eerie thought started forming in the back of my head: Were we played after all? Was MADDIE actually the predetermined winner--and the whole point of Gabby being there was to push us to Maddie? Did Disney end up getting exactly the sweet, wholesome, marketable winner they wanted from the beginning? Thinking about the finale, I'm starting to wonder. Caleb/Maddie's duet right before the winner was announced, for example: They certainly practiced that beforehand, so did they already know they'd be the top 2? Gabby didn't have a duet with another contestant during the finale--or maybe they'd always planned this so they could get the dating narrative in? Hearing Layla and Catie sing last night pushed my theory further: Both were exceptional--and both would have been just as much competition to Maddie (Catie especially) as they were to Gabby (my original theory on why they cut Layla was to make Gabby safer). Catie fell into the same "slot" as Maddie, so having both around any longer may have hurt Maddie's chances, and Maddie is the easier to market. It also makes some of the early female vocalist eliminations make more sense: Effie, Maddy Zohn, and Shannon O'Hara, to name 3, all fall closely enough into the same "slot" of vocalist that they'd dilute the Maddie vote if they'd stuck around. (Total aside, since I haven't seen any posts about it: Layla was REALLY good, I thought, and Catie was incredible with Katy Perry. I think it's a shame they didn't make it further.) To be clear, I think the right person won: Of the finalists, Maddie was the strongest singeperformer, and I'm really excited to hear her album/follow her career. I've been a big Maddie fan since the auditions, and she became my favorite after Catie's disastrous elimination. But I'm starting to wonder if all our attempts not to be manipulated by the producers led to us playing right into their hands after all. What do you think? Am I totally crazy? *Adjusts tinfoil hat.*
Kaplan: You want to know a secret? Holmes: Always. Kaplan: My ex-boyfriend is Ethan Zohn, I dated him about ten years ago. Holmes: Really? Kaplan: Yes, it’s not a very well-known fact. We dated for a long time and I’m still close friends with him to this day. And before I went to play he said, “Get somebody you need, and somebody who needs you.” Holmes: I like that, it insulates you on both sides. Kaplan: And Ethan won.
2017.07.02 18:26 feedredditTHE PRESIDENT posts a video of himself pummeling a man with CNN logo on his face -- CNN: ‘We will keep doing our jobs. He should start doing his’ -- SASSE punts on '20
THE PRESIDENT posts a video of himself pummeling a man with CNN logo on his face -- CNN: ‘We will keep doing our jobs. He should start doing his’ -- SASSE punts on '20 by [email protected] (Daniel Lippman) via POLITICO - TOP Stories URL: http://ift.tt/2tALnd9 THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES tweeted a 28-second video of himself punching someone whose face is covered by the CNN logo. The altered video is from one of his appearances 10 years ago on WWE. THE TWEET -- THE PRESIDENT at 9:21 a.m.: “#FraudNewsCNN #FNN” http://bit.ly/2sfIASR LET’S BE CLEAR -- The president has just sent his 33 million followers a video of himself pummeling a man covered by the CNN logo. CNN anchors and reporters -- indeed, anchors and reporters from many media outlets -- have been threatened and harassed. The president tweeted this message from the comfort of his summer golf home in New Jersey, surrounded by Secret Service. Meanwhile journalists are in the field, across the country and the world. THE WHITE HOUSE keeps telling us the president wants to talk about policy, but the media doesn’t want to cover it. Since June 30, the president has tweeted once about health care -- and it was to suggest a new strategy for Republicans. He has tweeted eight times about the media. CNN’s FIERY RESPONSE: “It is a sad day when the President of the United States encourages violence against reporters. Clearly, Sarah Huckabee Sanders lied when she said the President had never done so. Instead of preparing for his overseas trip, his first meeting with Vladimir Putin, dealing with North Korea and working on his health care bill, he is instead involved in juvenile behavior far below the dignity of his office. We will keep doing our jobs. He should start doing his.” THE WHITE HOUSE did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the tweet. FROM A D.C. REPUBLICAN: “Lord almighty. It seriously gets worse every day.” -- @NancyPelosi: “Violence & violent imagery to bully the press must be rejected. This #July4th, celebrate freedom of the press, guardians to our democracy”. TOM BOSSERT, the president’s homeland security adviser, walked onto Martha Raddatz’s set on ABC’s “This Week” just moments after the tweet posted. Jake showed him the video on his iPhone just as he was walking out of the green room. Raddatz asked him for his reaction on set. “There’s a lot of cable news shows that reach directly into hundreds of thousands of viewers that are really not very fair to the president. So I’m very proud of the president for developing a Twitter and social media platform where he can talk directly to the American people.” He said Trump is the most “genuine president” and “non-politician president” in our time. “No one would perceive that as a threat,” Bossert said. BUZZFEED: “The edited version of the clip has circulated on Reddit’s The_Donald -- which has become a hub for followers of alt-right, far-right, and Trump supporters -- over the last few days prior to the President tweeting it. It is not clear how the president became aware of the clip.” http://bzfd.it/2uyuwVv -- REMEMBER: A few weeks ago, House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) was shot and he now lays in a Washington hospital recovering. The president, at that time, called for the country to unify. He was roundly praised. Republicans and Democrats said it was time to ratchet down the political rhetoric. ANA NAVARRO, on “This Week”: “It is an incitement to violence. He is going to get somebody killed in the media. Maybe that will stop him.” KEEP IN MIND -- Ben Jacobs, a reporter from The Guardian, was recently bodyslammed by a congressional candidate. BY THE WAY … The man whose face is covered up appears to be Vince McMahon, the husband of Small Business Administrator Linda McMahon. See the original clip from 10 years agohttp://bit.ly/2t5V2Yx Good Sunday morning. TWO QUOTES THAT CAUGHT OUR ATTENTION… -- BARACK OBAMA in Jakarta, Indonesia, per the AP: “‘I wasn’t worried about what was in the newspapers today,’ former President Barack Obama said Saturday during a nostalgic visit to Indonesia's capital, his childhood home. ‘What I was worried about was, ‘What are they going to write about me 20 years from now when I look back?’” http://bit.ly/2uxxI3E -- MITCH MCCONNELL, per the AP, in Kentucky: “‘If Republican Senators are unable to pass what they are working on now, they should immediately REPEAL, and then REPLACE at a later date!’ Trump wrote early Friday. Later that day, McConnell told reporters after an event in his home state of Kentucky that the health bill was challenging but ‘we are going to stick with that path.’ He added: ‘It’s not easy making America great again, is it?’” http://bit.ly/2t5w6jF PRESIDENT TRUMP at the “Celebrate Freedom” rally honoring veterans last night at the Kennedy Center: “My administration is transferring power outside of Washington and returning it to where it belongs, the people. The fake media is trying to silence us but we will not let them. The people know the truth. The fake media tried to stop us from going to the White House, but I’m president and they’re not. … “The fact is the press destroyed themselves because they went too far. Instead of being subtle and smart, they used the hatchet and the people saw it right from the beginning. ... The dishonest media will not stop us from accomplishing our objectives on behalf of the American people. Their agenda is not your agenda.” -- DESPITE THE BLUSTER, we’d venture to say President Trump has given nearly as many interviews to the New York Times and Washington Post since winning the presidency in November than Barack Obama did in eight years. Right? -- @maggieNYT: “POTUS used July 4 vets event to attack the press/first amendment: ‘The fact is the press destroyed themselves because they went too far.’” -- QUICK NOTE: Imagine if Barack Obama used a veterans event to attack the press. THE NEW WALL STREET JOURNAL -- SAM WALKER, the deputy enterprise editor at the WSJ (@samwalkers): “Are WH attacks on TV media ‘news’? I dunno... These @shaneharris scoops definitely are: http://on.wsj.com/2sfE2vT … http://on.wsj.com/2tyk4QM” FOR POSTERITY [email protected] at 3:41 p.m.: “My use of social media is not Presidential - it’s MODERN DAY PRESIDENTIAL. Make America Great Again!” IVANKA WATCH -- “When Dad’s the president -- a look inside Ivanka Trump’s complicated world,” by WaPo’s Monica Hesse and Krissah Thompson: “Ivanka Trump’s office: clean, white, quiet. A zone of punctual start times and promptly-offered water bottles, and a conference table at which she conducts meetings. A short, winding walk away from her father’s Oval Office downstairs. She does not necessarily appreciate daily schedules. Neither does her father. When Ivanka needs to see the president, she stops by. When he needs to see her, he calls. When he wants her opinion, he asks for it and she gives it, but without expectation that it will be followed.She sees her role as not to persuade, but to inform and support ... “Anyone who has invested in her the ability to change her father clearly doesn’t understand the dynamic that has always governed their relationship and also the dynamic of a president and his staff. After all, she works for him. ... When she disagrees with her dad, she asks herself whether the issue was a campaign promise or not. If it was, she readily suppresses her own wishes. She believes that doing otherwise would undermine what the American people voted for. She asks herself why her opinion is more right than the 46 percent of the country who put her father in office.” http://wapo.st/2tzSAKq NOTHING TO SEE HERE -- “With health bill looming, senators aren’t rushing into the July Fourth spotlight,” by WaPo’s Paul Kane: “Sen. Susan Collins will celebrate the Fourth of July within view of the Canadian border, at a remote northeastern Maine town’s annual parade. Sen. Lisa Murkowski will appear on the other end of the continent in an old timber town on an isolated Alaskan island. These two Republican senators, critical swing votes in the debate over health-care legislation, are not exactly rushing into the public spotlight to engage their constituents on the controversial plan and their own decision-making about the proposal. “Then again, at least they have released information about where they will be. That’s more than most Senate Republicans have done at the start of a 10-day break wrapped around the nation’s Independence Day celebration. This creates the belief among liberal activists that Republicans are trying to hide, which in turn primes every public moment to become that much more confrontational.” http://wapo.st/2tzSYZ9 -- W.H. LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR MARC SHORT ON TIMING, to JOHN ROBERTS on “Fox News Sunday”: “Well, look, we’ve gone through a long process in the House and got it completed and passed in the House. We now are in the Senate where there’s been obviously a lot of procedural delays in this process. We are at the point of scoring two separate bills throughout the course of this recess this week. So, we hope that we come back the week after recess, we'll have a vote.” WHAT BRAD PARSCALE IS READING -- “Pro-Trump Twitter operatives market paid tweets,” by Shawn Musgrave: “From the moment he declared his candidacy, President Trump commanded legions of online followers. Now, having helped win the White House, factions of self-made social media operatives are redirecting their skills and infrastructure to promote other candidates nationwide. Some are even vying to spin their experiences from the presidential race into new business models, seeking to promote other candidates by paying pro-Trump Twitter users to tweet and retweet scripted messages. Pro-Trump tweeters say they deserve at least partial credit for defeating Hillary Clinton, as well as for the string of Republican victories in recent special elections. A handful are pursuing paid gigs from aspiring conservative politicians, pitching their organized -- and often secretive -- follower networks to ‘America First’ candidates willing to pay. “It’s an unproven concept, one viewed with skepticism from established campaign veterans and with varying levels of disdain from those who tweet Trump’s virtues for free. After all, Twitter derives its power from authentic, grass-roots messaging. But pay-to-tweet enthusiasts say they’re selling the future of social media strategy, and that candidates won’t have any choice but to pay.” http://politi.co/2tEmwFV MAUREEN DOWD in the NYT: “Cruella de Trump”: “The 71-year-old president’s pathological inability to let go of slights; his strongman reflex to be the aggressor and bite back like a cornered animal, without regard for societal norms; his lack of self-awareness about the power he commands and the proportionality of his responses; his grotesque hunger for flattery and taste for Tony Soprano tactics; his Pravda partnership with David Pecker, the head honcho at The National Enquirer, which has been giving Trump the Il Duce treatment while sliming his political opponents, the ‘Morning Joe’ anchors and Megyn Kelly -- these are all matters that should alarm men and women equally. “Trump has moved his shallow kiddie wading pool of gossip and ridicule from Trump Tower to the White House, where it is so outlandishly out of place that it often feels like we have a Page Six reporter as our president. … Before he got to D.C., Trump was used to media that could be bought, sold and bartered with. He is not built for this hostile environment and it shows in his deteriorating psychological state. Even though he’s in the safest space of all, he’s not in a safe space.” http://nyti.ms/2tye4rz THE WHITE HOUSE appears to be putting more of their aides on television to talk about the president’s agenda. They had Tom Bossert, the president’s homeland security adviser, on ABC and Marc Short, the president’s legislative affairs director, on Fox. The Trump administration has had no one on the Sunday shows on many occasions. A few weeks ago, Trump’s attorney Jay Sekulow went on the shows. SUNDAY BEST -- HHS SECRETARY TOM PRICE to NBC’S CHUCK TODD on “MEET THE PRESS” -- TODD: “I’m just asking you as a father. If your son tweeted about a woman like that, what would you say to him?” PRICE: “Chuck, you know, this is really remarkable. You’ve got incredible challenges across this nation, incredible challenges around the world. The challenge that I've been given is to address the health care issues. And your program, a program with the incredible history of Meet the Press, and that’s what you want to talk about?” TODD: “I don’t.” PRICE:“Let me suggest to you that the American people want to talk about the challenges.” TODD: “Mr. Secretary, I don’t. Mr. Secretary, with all due respect, you’re blaming me for what the president of the United States has spent his entire week focused on?” PRICE: “No. Listen to me, with all due respect. The American people are concerned about a health care system that is not providing choices, where premiums are going up, where insurance companies are vacating markets all across this land. And that’s what they want us to concentrate on. And that’s what they want us to fix. And that’s what I and the president are working on.” TWO INTERESTING BITES FROM JAKE TAPPER’S interview of SEN. BEN SASSE (R-NEB.) on CNN’s “STATE OF THE UNION” … -- CANCEL AUGUST RECESS: “Let's bring everybody into the room. Let’s do this full-time 18 hours a day, six days a week. Let’s cancel the August state work period, and let’s do it in full public view and have hearings and get to work on something that works better than Obamacare. We pledged that, and the American people deserve that.” -- NO ANSWER ABOUT A 2020 CHALLENGE TO TRUMP: TAPPER: “So, senator, you're not taking that advice. In fact, you’re going to be crossing the Missouri on Friday, going to Iowa and speaking at the Judge Joseph Story Dinner. Is there any chance that you will challenge President Trump for the Republican nomination in 2020?” SASSE: “Well, first of all, let’s be clear why I’m going to be in Iowa this weekend. I don’t want to admit it anywhere, let alone on national TV, but Nebraska lost to Iowa last year in a football game, and I lost a bet. So, I have to drive Uber in Iowa next weekend. So, that’s the reason I’m going to be in Iowa. It’s about Hawkeyes and Huskers’ bloodletting on the football field and the aftermath of that. But I don’t know who that guy is in your segment, but here’s what I believe. “I believe that, on the Fourth of July weekend, we ought to have every kid in America having their moms and dads and aunts and uncles and grandmas and grandpas getting together and saying, we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men and women are created equal, that they’re endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. “That’s what America is about. It’s not about Republicans and Democrats who have important differences on policy screaming at each other that the other side wants to kill somebody. Politics are subordinate to the things that are supposed to unite Americans. And this is a weekend that we should be celebrating all that.” JOHN ROBERTS talks with SEN. JOE MANCHIN (D-W.VA.) on “FOX NEWS SUNDAY” -- “Manchin: Dems want to work with Trump on health care,” by Connor O’Brien: “Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin on Sunday said members of his party are willing to work with Republicans and President Donald Trump to find a bipartisan solution on health care. ... ‘I want him to know there are Democrats that want to work with him,’ Manchin said. ‘But right now, they can’t even repeal it. They can’t get 50 votes to repeal it because somebody’s getting hurt more than what they’re willing to sign on to.’ ‘Look at some of us. Work with us Democrats who are willing to meet you in the middle, who have always been willing to meet you in the middle,’ Manchin said.” http://politi.co/2tF5tnp JOHN DICKERSON talks with SEN. MIKE LEE (R-UTAH) on CBS's "FACE THE NATION: DICKERSON: "If Republicans can't agree on a replacement option at the moment why would they be able to agree on one in the future?" LEE: "Well, if we adopted a measure, if we passed a measure repealing Obamacare, and put a delayed implementation measure in there. With the understanding that at that point after passing the repeal measure we would undertake the step by step process of deciding what comes next. I think it's easier, sometimes when you lump too many things into one piece of legislation, you doom its likelihood of success and I fear that that might be where we are today and i think that explains a lot of what President Trump was talking about in his tweet the other day. What Senator Sasse mentioned in his series of communications on Friday and I think it’s very much worth considering, it’s consistent with what I thought would be better, a more likely to succeed legislative strategy over the last six months." REMEMBER THIS GUY? -- “Christie adds government shutdown to his legacy: The move comes after New Jersey lawmakers failed to pass a budget by the annual deadline,” by New Jersey Playbooker Matt Friedman: “Chris Christie is heading into his final six months as governor presiding over New Jersey’s biggest government crisis in more than a decade: A shutdown that will literally turn the lights out in Trenton. New Jersey lawmakers failed to pass a budget by the annual deadline at midnight last night, and Christie promptly issued an order sparking the closure of government offices and services deemed non-essential. State parks and beaches will likely be closed this morning, just in time for the holiday, as will motor vehicle offices. Courts could be closed come Monday. Tens of thousands of state government employees will be furloughed. … “‘It’s all going to come down to when folks get up tomorrow for the July 4th weekend and drive down to Island Beach State Park to spend the day and a sign says it’s closed,’ said Patrick Murray, director of the Monmouth University Polling Institute. ‘They’re going to blame Gov. Christie and nobody else.’” http://politi.co/2t56rb0 … Subscribe to New Jersey Playbookhttp://politi.co/1HLKltF -- “Illinois blows budget deadline as threat of downgrade looms,”by Illinois Playbooker Natasha Korecki: “Illinois lawmakers blew their deadline for a budget agreement and instead entered their third fiscal year without a spending plan on Saturday, despite worries about the state facing an unprecedented downgrade to junk status.” http://politi.co/2tec3ht … Subscribe to Illinois Playbookhttp://politi.co/1N7u5sb THE CABINET -- NYT A1, “E.P.A. Chief Voids Obama-Era Rules in Blazing Start,” by Coral Davenport (online headline: “Counseled by Industry, Not Staff, E.P.A. Chief Is Off to a Blazing Start”): “In the four months since he took office as the Environmental Protection Agency’s administrator, Scott Pruitt has moved to undo, delay or otherwise block more than 30 environmental rules, a regulatory rollback larger in scope than any other over so short a time in the agency’s 47-year history, according to experts in environmental law. Mr. Pruitt’s supporters, including President Trump, have hailed his moves as an uprooting of the administrative state and a clearing of onerous regulations that have stymied American business. Environmental advocates have watched in horror as Mr. Pruitt has worked to disable the authority of the agency charged with protecting the nation’s air, water and public health.” http://nyti.ms/2svjtzB STEVEN BRILL in WaPo’s Outlook section, “Nine ways to really fix Obamacare”:http://wapo.st/2teHrwn MEDIAWATCH -- “Wall Street Journal Said to Reduce Print Operations Outside U.S.,” by NYT’s Emily Steel and Prashant S. Rao: “The Wall Street Journal is scaling back its print operations in Europe and Asia, two people familiar with the plans said … [as] part of efforts by the news organization to cut costs and focus on its digital offerings. The latest move would involve greatly reducing publication of its print newspaper in Europe … That includes eliminating free copies and reducing hotel distribution deals that are not profitable. The Journal will continue to publish an Asian edition in Tokyo, but is exploring other ways to reduce print publishing elsewhere in Asia.” http://nyti.ms/2suL3x0 FUN READ – “Beach reading for a summer of scandal,” by Darren Samuelsohn: “Feeling overwhelmed by nonstop news about the Russia probe and desperate for some historical context? Do you work or live at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue? If you answered yes to either of those questions, POLITICO has some summer reading recommendations for you. We canvassed veterans of previous investigations and longtime Washington fixtures for suggestions beyond All the President’s Men. Our list covers everything from subpoenas to grand juries and how a White House can weather scandal. Ahead of the Fourth of July holiday, here’s some great material to pack in your beach bag: “‘A Timeline: Russia and President Trump,’ by Steven Harper, recommended by Nick Akerman, former assistant Watergate prosecutor ... ‘All the King’s Men,’ by Robert Penn Warren, recommended by Jim Manley ... ‘The Breach,’ by Peter Baker, recommended by Don Goldberg, former crisis communications spokesman, Clinton White House.” With four more selectionshttp://politi.co/2sfRDDe BONUS GREAT WEEKEND READS, curated by Daniel Lippman, filing from Great Barrington, Massachusetts: --“The Rise of the Thought Leader: How the superrich have funded a new class of intellectual,” by David Sessions in TNR: “Interviewed for The Ideas Industry, [Niall] Ferguson is frank about his transformation from Oxford don to thought leader: ‘I did it all for the money.’ ... Thought leaders all share a core view that extreme wealth and the channels by which it was obtained are not only legitimate but heroic.” http://bit.ly/2urqqyi (h/t ALDaily.com) --“Zohar’s Translation Unlocks the Secrets of Jewish Mysticism in an Age of Extremism,” by Newsweek’s Alexander Nazaryan: “Imagine the Old Testament as written by H.P. Lovecraft, Bible stories tripping on acid, rendered in difficult-to-decipher Aramaic, full of wisdom and beauty but shrouded in obscurity, a 1,900-page text written more than 700 years ago whose teachings have been embraced by celebrities like Madonna but not fully understood even by most scholars of Judaism.” http://bit.ly/2sfiVtB --“How We Save Face--Researchers Crack the Brain’s Facial-Recognition Code,” by Knvul Sheikh in Scientific American: “A Caltech team has deciphered the way we identify faces, re-creating what the brain sees from its electrical activity.” http://bit.ly/2sZlQcN --“Is the staggeringly profitable business of scientific publishing bad for science?” by Stephen Buranyi in the Guardian: “Despite the narrow audience, scientific publishing is a remarkably big business. With total global revenues of more than £19bn, it weighs in somewhere between the recording and the film industries in size, but it is far more profitable.” http://bit.ly/2ttXXKU --“Retail giants enable trucker exploitation,” by Brett Murphy in USA Today: “Powerhouses such as Target, Costco benefit while drivers plunge into debt.” https://usat.ly/2ua2Dnm --“Anxiety at the Gates,” by Edward Schwarzschild in Hazlitt: “[E]very morning, as part of my job [as a TSA screener], I was supposed to run my hands up and down the legs, torsos, and arms of my fellow citizens. I was supposed to do this in such a way that no one would feel groped. Our cheerful instructors offered guidance. Exert the same pressure you use to spread peanut butter on a sandwich. Say clearly what you’re going to do and then do it. We’d grow numb to it before long, they assured us.” http://bit.ly/2s9FPm9 (h/t TheBrowser.com) --“The Killer in the Pool,” by Tim Zimmermann in the July 2010 issue of Outside magazine – per Longform.org’s description: “In February 2010, a killer whale named Tilikum dragged his SeaWorld trainer into the pool and drowned her. It was the third time the orca had been involved in a death during his 27 years in captivity. This is his story.” http://bit.ly/2sp7dAM --“In the Light of the Conflict: Photographer Andrew Quilty’s experience in Afghanistan,” by Jelena Bjelica on Afghan Analysts Network: “I do not think of myself as a huge risk taker. A lot of planning goes into travel outside Kabul. We do not just jump in a taxi and head for the hills. I was inexperienced and a bit ignorant in Badakhshan, and probably pushed my luck more than I would these days. Now, working with colleagues, I’m often the one telling journalists to wrap up their interviews because it feels like we have been in one place too long.” http://bit.ly/2sZ4tZC ... 26 of his Afghan pix on one pagehttp://bit.ly/2u6ErCf --“The Shah of Iran: An Interview with Mohammad Reza Pahlevi,” by Oriana Falaci in the Dec. 1, 1973 New Republic: “‘[A] monarchy is the only possible means to govern Iran. If I have been able to do something, a lot, in fact, for Iran, it is owing to the detail, slight as it may seem, that I’m its king. To get things done, one needs power, and to hold onto power one mustn’t ask anyone’s permission or advice.” http://bit.ly/2su5o0K --“The Gay Men Who Fled Chechnya’s Purge,” by Masha Gessen in the New Yorker: “The stories of those who survived detention and torture and are now living undercover in Putin’s Russia.” http://bit.ly/2s9GbcA --“The Future of Coal Country,” by Eliza Griswold in the New Yorker: “A local environmental activist fights to prepare her community for life beyond mining.” http://bit.ly/2su54z4 --“The Polaroids of the Cowboy Poet,” by Dan Zak in the Jan. 13, 2016 WaPo: “He captured a crumbling city and almost went down with it. Then one man saw his photos." http://wapo.st/2urjssX SPOTTED IN NANTUCKET: Greta Van Susteren and John Coale walking on the island’s Straight Wharf dock on Friday night. OUT AND ABOUT IN THE HAMPTONS -- LALLY WEYMOUTH held her annual summer party last night at her house in Southampton. There was a long gold carpet entrance from where the parking was to a big tent next to her house. She served champagne, rare filet, fried chicken, cornbread, a big chocolate cake, ice cream and cookies decorated as American flags. Brother Don Graham did a big tribute to toast Lally (whose birthday is tomorrow) and shouted out Steven Spielberg’s upcoming film about how Ben Bradlee and Katharine Graham challenged the government for the right to publish the Pentagon Papers in 1971 (Tom Hanks is playing Bradlee and Meryl Streep is playing Graham). Don made a big deal that Spielberg was there and jokingly conceived a Spielberg movie about Lally and described the cast (some actors and some in the room). -- SPOTTED: Jared and Ivanka chatting with Joel Klein and Alan Patricof, Kellyanne Conway on the dance floor, Boyden Gray, Chris Ruddy, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and wife Iris, Katharine Weymouth, Mary Jordan, Richard Cohen, Margaret Carlson, Gillian Tett, Steven Spielberg chatting with Steve Clemons and Robert Hormats, Carl Icahn, Tom Lee (famous for doing a leveraged buyout of Snapple and now lives in Princess Radziwill’s house), Charles Koch, John Paulson, Dina Powell, Richard Edelman, George Soros and his wife Tamiko Bolton, former Florida Gov. and Sen. Bob Graham (Lally’s uncle), her cousin Gwen Graham (who is running for Florida governor), Maria Bartiromo, Ray Kelly, Bill Bratton, Alan Patricof, Jeff Rosen, William Drozdiak, Rep. Lee Zeldin (R-N.Y.). SPOTTED at a dinner Friday night in Aspen in honor of Fareed Zakaria hosted at the residence of Alexandra Munroe, senior curator at the Guggenheim and her husband Robert Rosenkranz, chairman of Intelligence Squared US: former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, K.R. Sridhar, Karen Brooks and Bob and Soledad Hurst. Pichttp://bit.ly/2tewafz WEEKEND WEDDINGS – “Chrysovalantis Kefalas, Thomas Pavlick” – N.Y. Times: “Mr. Kefalas, 37, is a vice president for executive communications at the National Association of Manufacturers, an advocacy group based in Washington. He graduated from Loyola University Maryland and received a law degree from the University of Baltimore. ... Mr. Pavlick [Tommy McFly], 31, is the host of ‘The Tommy Show,’ a weekly talk show on CBS Radio’s 94.7 Fresh FM in Bethesda, Md., and a special-projects reporter for WUSA 9, a television station in Washington. He graduated from Luzerne County Community College. ... The couple were introduced through mutual friends in July 2013 at Lauriol Plaza, a restaurant in Washington.” With pichttp://nyti.ms/2sAPoKt --POOL REPORT FROM KELLEY MCCORMICK: The ceremony was at “Sagamore Pendry Hotel in Baltimore on Saturday night, surrounded by family and friends. Officiated by Bob Madigan, serenaded by Erin Willett [of ‘The Voice’] and attended by Kelly Collis, Jen Richer, Samuel Ashner, and Zoe Shyn. Late night pizza and dancing was still going on when this report was filed [at 1:24 a.m.], with music being spun by DJ Neekola.” Picshttp://bit.ly/2tetrCT ... http://bit.ly/2teOtRB ... The autobiographical cake by Charm City Cakeshttp://bit.ly/2sviCin SPOTTED: Ellie Schafer and Heather Rothenberg, Tammy Haddad, Kate Bennett, Kevin Baron, Cathy Merrill, Susanna Quinn, Matt Glassman (credited for first introducing the couple), Kelley and Brian McCormick, Jay Timmons and Rick Olson, Erin Streeter and Chris Israel, Wendy Gordon, Jill Collins, Elizabeth and Penelope Thorp, Jake Maccoby, Kris Van Cleve, Emily Miller, Peter Morris, Barbara and John Martin, Mike Drachkovitch and special guest Connor O’Donnell. --“Eliese Lissner, Derek Callahan”: “The bride, 28 ... is the director of missions and an associate director of leadership at the Anti-Defamation League in New York. She develops international travel programs to engage lay leadership, and recently coordinated the league’s mission to Rome, where she met Pope Francis. She graduated from Drew University and received a master’s degree in integrated marketing from N.Y.U. ... The groom, 30, is a news producer in Englewood Cliffs, N.J., for CNBC’s ‘Mad Money,’ a financial investment program hosted by Jim Cramer, and is pursuing an M.B.A. through Syracuse. He graduated from Ithaca College.” With pichttp://nyti.ms/2sfCMcj OBAMA ALUMNI -- “Nirupama Rao, Matthew Landy”: “The bride, 35, is an assistant professor of economics and public policy at N.Y.U. Next month, she is to join the faculty of the University of Michigan. She graduated from M.I.T., where she also received a Ph.D. in economics. From 2015 to 2016, she served as a senior economist at the Council of Economic Advisers in Washington. … The groom, 44, is a portfolio manager in New York for Lazard Asset Management. He also serves on the board of Friends of the Children New York, a nonprofit that mentors at-risk children. He graduated from Monash University in Melbourne, Australia.” http://nyti.ms/2sfTCrm --Former Obama White House intern and Navy officer Mark Jbeily married Helen Hansen, art historian and Courtauld alum, at Perkins Chapel in Dallas on Saturday. “Helen and Mark met in their first day of their first class of their first year at UT. Both just finished graduate school in the UK where Mark was a Marshall Scholar, and they are now off to Pensacola for Mark’s naval aviation training.” Picshttp://bit.ly/2sfHM0q ... http://bit.ly/2sfL2ss TRANSITIONS: Chris Kelley has started on API’s federal relations team as a director focused on international and corporate issues. He most recently was deputy chief of staff for Rep. Brad Ashford (D-Neb.). BIRTHWEEK (was Friday): Kristen Ellingboe, researcher for CAP Action BIRTHDAY OF THE DAY: Jonathan Capehart, WaPo opinion writer and MSNBC contributor. How he’s celebrating: “I’ll be with my husband Nick with our friends Bryan Rafanelli and Mark Walsh at their home in Provincetown.” Read his Playbook Plus Q&A:http://politi.co/2udIRHv BIRTHDAYS: Courtney Geduldig, EVP of public affairs of S&P Global ... Brad Todd, founding partner of On Message … David Lopez, director of special projects and advisor to the president and CEO at the Kaiser Family Foundation and an Obama WH alum ... Luci Baines Johnson is 7-0 -- she was recognized in a bipartisan Congressional Record tribute by Reps. Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-Texas) and Joe Barton (R-Texas): http://politi.co/2uykAv0 (hat tip: Lyndon Boozer) ... Katherine Lehr ... Politico’s Victoria Adeniji and Maria Rivero ... DCCC deputy research director Sammi McClain, an HFA alum … former White House chief of staff and former N.H. Gov John H. Sununu is 78 (h/t Ryan Williams) ... former Mexican President Vicente Fox is 75 (h/t Mexican Amb. to the U.S. Geronimo Gutiérrez, Fox’s former undersecretary of foreign affairs) ... Larry David is 7-0 (h/t Dick Keil) ... former Philippine first lady Imelda Marcos is 88 ... Scott McGee of Kelley Drye & Warren ... Matthew Dybwad, senior sales account manager at Adobe ... Fenton CEO Ben Wyskida is 4-0 ... Gus Ericson is 27 … Kara Rowland, Fox News Capitol Hill producer ... CNN Politics’ Alysha Love ... Berrin Tunçel ... Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) is 33 (h/t Nala) ... Rep. Doug LaMalfa (R-Calif.) is 56 ... Rep. Randy Weber (R-Tex.) is 64 ... former Rep. Mike Castle (R-Del.) is 78 ... Collin Davenport is 31 ... RSLC’s Devon Gallagher ... WaPo’s Jessie Niewold ... ... Gina Woodworth, SVP of public policy and gov’t affairs at the Internet Association ... Derek Gianino, director of international policy at the U.S. Chamber … U.S. Army Captain Chuck Nadd, founder of nonprofit Operation American Dream ... Sara Roberts ... NFL’s Caroline Keyes ... Arkadi Gerney, executive director of the Hub Project and SVP of campaigns and strategies at CAP Action ... Ethan Oberman, co-founder and CEO of SpiderOak, is 41 ... Trevor Neilson ... Jean Cecil Frick ... Marie Formica, delivery manager at Benefitfocus and FamousDC alum ... Reuters’ Michele Gershberg ... Sam Nitz ... Jonathan Woods … Brooke Oberwetter Coon … Emily Stanitz … Lily Velasquez … Lyndsey (Hamilton) Fifield ... Hannah Rosenthal … Sam Hutchison … Michael Matthews … John Brown ... Susan Vilmain (h/ts Teresa Vilmain) ... Ali Chishti ... Ashley Zohn ... Mike Chapman ... Josh Cahan ... figure skater Johnny Weir is 33 ... Lindsay Lohan is 31 ... actress Margot Robbie is 27 (h/ts AP)
2017.02.16 00:59 qngffWelcome to the First Annual Ranky Awards!
Note: If you don't feel like reading all of this, scroll to the bottom and there will be a TL;DR version. The following is just some silly generic awards show ramblings. Note 2: Rankers and Winners, feel free to post your acceptance speeches in the comments. Sadly I can't write them for you. Welcome! Welcome one and all to the Rankies! We've had a long year of Survivor Rankdown and now, it all culminates with this awards show, honoring the great work that has been placed into this project. The rankers are all here in the building, and I know that they're all excited to hear the results and find out if they won! We've got a great show for you tonight. We've got live musical performances and plenty of fun in store. So I'm going to quit rambling and introduce the first category. Let's kick things off with the Ranky for Best Wildcard Usage! The Wildcards were a truly chaotic power this rankdown, with idols flying to negate them as soon as possible, or idols completely left out. Every ranker has a nomination here, but only one can win. And the winner for Best Wildcard Usage is. . . . . . repo_sado with his idoled Twila Tanner cut at #47!" Up next, we have the award for Best Exile Island Usage. Exile Island, named after the twist first originating in Panama, held the idol until Yul effectively broke it. It has made appearances since then though, under the new idol rules, and is generally a place a Survivor doesn't want to end up. But here, it's a good thing, ensuring their safety for FIFTY cuts! Six rankers used six Exile Island powers, but only one can take home the Golden Snoo! And the winner is . . . . . ramskick, placing Lex van den Berghe 1.0 on Exile Island at #204! Continuing onwards with our awards in the Powers section, we have the Ranky for Best Vote Steal! Vote steals allowed rankers to straight up remove a character from the voting pool and replace them with whomever they so choose. They provided large boosts to many characters, and what's more, all seven rankers have a nod here. The winner is. . . . . . A TIE! oddfictionrambles for his Rocky Reid vote steal at #404 and ramskick for his Janu Tornell idol at #348. Congratulations to ramskick on award number 2! Stay tuned because after this commercial break, we've got more awards and some exciting musical performances! Commercial 1 Commercial 2 And welcome back! We've got more awards to hand out so let's get right into it. Our next award is awarded to the ranker who made the best use of another power! The award for Best Tribe Swap! Dating all the way back to Africa, this twist shakes up the game at the most unexpected times, and can really shake up a rankdown. Six were used, but only one can win. And the winner is . . . . . repo_sado with his tribe swap at #400! Congratulations on your second award! Idols. Idols were a HUGE part of this rankdown. They were used for personal gain, strategy, and were the source of a lot of drama, on both used and unused idols! Seven rankers were nominated, but who takes home the Golden Snoo for Best Idol Usage? The winner is . . . . . funsized725 idoling Tina Scheer at #379, Russell Swan 2.0 at #187, and Sandra Diaz-Twine 1.0 at #74! Now comes the big one! The Ranky Award for Best Overall Power Usage! Who did the spectators think used their powers best overall? People have differing criteria, but the votes have been tabulated. The Golden Snoo goes to... . . . . A THREE WAY TIE!!!!!!!! repo_sado, oddfictionrambles, and funsized725 ALL WIN! This marks the third award for repo and OFR and Fun's second awards! We have to go to another commercial break, but don't change that channel! When we come back we'll have our first performance, plus another award, so stick around! Commercial 3 Commercial 4 Welcome back! Before we get into the next awards, we have our first live musical performance! Please welcome to the stage performing her hit single Sticky Situation - Baylor Wilson! Wow what a riveting performance! And now, we honor the spectators, who commented, participated, and influenced this rankdown with insightful comments, or beaten to death memes. Cut Rocky amirite??? But the nominees for the Ranky Award for Favorite Spectator are acktar sanatomy and wilburdes And here comes Baylor with the winner's envelope Baylor: Thanks qngff! It was a tight race the whole way and all three of y'all are great, but only one came out on top. . . . . . wilburdes! Congrats! Thanks Baylor! And now we turn to the Award for Best Cut Response! We had lots of great ones over the course of the season, but now we honor the best ones of them all! The nominees are oddfictionrambles full writeup response to the Laura Morett 1.0 cut. ramskick providing a Rupert-tweet response to Rupert 3.0's cut jlim201 calling Sierra Reed "better than a pinecone" oddfictionrambles praising Kass' top spot for Cagayan at the Tony Vlachos cut sanatomy defending Alicia Calaway 1.0 as a character with depth after gaius called her one-note sanatomy defending Ami Cusack 1.0 as an endgame character at her cut And the winner is . . . . . sanatomy for defending Ami Cusack for endgame! Read the full comment here And now, we must go to another commercial break, so don't go anywhere because we've got more Rankies coming up! Commercial 5 Commercial 6 We're back! Now Let's get into the next award! Some rankers LOVE using GIF's, Images, and Videos in their rankdowns, and now it's time to determine the best! The nominees for Best GIF/Picture/Video Usage are ramskick - Adam Gentry jacare37 - Colby Donaldson 1.0 jacare37 - Jan Gentry jacare37 - Ozzy Lusth 1.0 NSFW jacare37 - Rocky Reid And the winner is . . . . . A TIE BETWEEN jacare37's Rocky and Ozzy pics! Congratulations on Awards #1 and #2! Now we move onto the next award, and what a show it's been! Things are exciting folks, and I'm excited to reveal the next category of Way Too High! These awards go to the characters themselves! How exciting! The nominees for the Ranky Award for Character Ranked Way Too High are #34 - Eliza Orlins 2.0 #77 - Kelley Wentworth 2.0 #331 - Rocky Reid And the Ranky goes to . . . . . IT'S ANOTHER TIE BETWEEN KELLEY AND ELIZA! Wow! How exciting! Our next award is an exciting one! The R.obbed G.oddess Award for Character Ranked Way Too Low! All nominees were placed into the voting pool and the TOP THREE all get a Ranky! Let's see who the fans thought deserved a higher placement! #31 - Tony Vlachos #212 - Shii Ann Huang 2.0 #239 - Robb Zbacknik #297 Deena Bennett #318 Scot Pollard #331 Rocky Reid #340 Ethan Zohn 2.0 #418 Ralph Kiser #481 Brandon Quinton #538 Alicia Calaway 2.0 #548 Shambo Waters #573 Nadiya Anderson Wow that's a lot! There are three winners. I'll reveal them from third most to most votes! The fist winner is . . . . . Scot Pollard! The Second winner is! . . . . . Ethan Zohn 2.0! And the final winner is... . . . . . Deena Bennett! Congratulations to all three! We've got to go to commercial again, but this is our last set! That's right, after this, the Rankies will go COMPLETELY UNINTERRUPTED! Stick around, because you don't want to miss the end of this! Commercial 7 Commercial 8 Alright! We are back! Before we get into the next rankings, we have another musical guest! Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome, Lisi Linares! (WARNING: Somewhat NSFW) What a moving performance by Lisi, thank you! Now we get into the best awards, the ones about the write-ups themselves! But first, I'd like to present the Ranky Achievement Award to otherestscott for his work in typing up the great Final Fours! What makes a write-up stand out. One way is to do something in a unique or original way. This category honors those who made their write-ups different from the norm. These are the nominees for Most Unique/Original Writeup oddfictionrambles - #251 - Becky Lee jacare37 - #256 - Nick Maiorano repo_sado - #400 - Liz Markham repo_sado #575 - Russell Hantz 1.0 And the Ranky goes to... . . . . . . . . . . repo_sado for his Liz Markham Writeup. Congratulations to repo on his FOURTH award! Now we move on to the humorous, the comical, the funny, the laugh out loud hilarious writeups that had us all in stitches! That's right folks, it's time to name the winner for the funniest writeup of the season. Here are the nominees for Funniest Writeup jacare37 - #331 - Rocky Reid jacare37 - #410 - Anna Khait oddfictionrambles - #552 - Jonathan Libby funsized725 - #556 - Natalie Tennerelli The winner is.. . . . . . . . . . . jacare37 for his Anna Khait Writeup. Congrats on your THIRD Ranky! Now, to honor the cream of the crop, the top tier, the endgamers of Survivor character writeups! We proceed. With the first ever Ranky Award for Best Writeup. The nominees are oddfictionrambles - #74 - Kim Spraldin oddfictionrambles - #135 - Tina Wesson 1.0 repo_sado - #253 - Russell Hantz 2.0 jacare37 - #457 - Kelley Wentworth 2.0 (idoled) gaiusfbaltar - #557 - Phillip Sheppard 2.0 And the Ranky goes to... . . . . . . . . . . IT'S A TIE!!!!!!! Both oddfictionrambles' Kim Spraldin Writeup and jacare37's Idoled Kelley Wentworth 2.0 Writeup received an equal number of votes! Congratulations to OFR for his Third and Jacare for his FOURTH Rankies It's all come down to this. repo_sado jlim201 oddfictionrambles jacare37 gaiusfbaltar funsized725 ramskick It is now time to announce the winner for Favorite Ranker The winner is . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ramskick! Congratulations! You have been named Favorite Ranker by the fans! And congratulations on your THIRD Ranky! Thank you all for a great season of rankdown. See you in June for Survivor Rankdown IV
Most favorable demographic: Straight (5.2814/10) Least favorable demographic: Gay/Bi (3.9333/10) Strong positive correlations with: Ozzy Lusth - S16, Ozzy Lusth - S23, Rupert Boneham - S08 Strong negative correlations with: Shii Ann Huang - S05, Kimmi Kappenberg - S31, Lisa Whelchel - S25 Returning for his third season, James Clement was put on the Heroes tribes mostly because of how nice and genuine he was to the previous tribemates. This season, James had the worst performance placing 14th. Throughout the season James seemed to be frustrated at the lack of teamwork both at camp and in challenges. On the 15th day, James suffered an injury to his left leg during a challenge, making him a liability to the tribe. He luckily survived one tribal council before being voted out during the next one. During this last experience, the most important thing that James learned was what a ‘banana etiquette’ is. - DaDeltaDrum
Most favorable demographic: /survivor members of <1 year (5.2500/10) Least favorable demographic: Started watching Seasons 19-32 (4.7115/10) Strong positive correlations with: Erica Durousseau - S14, Allie Pohevitz - S26, Krista Klumpp - S22 Strong negative correlations with: Randy Bailey - S17, Keith Nale - S29, Jon "Jonny Fairplay" Dalton - S07 Honors: Strongest positive correlation for Fiji (with Erica Durousseau) Survivor: Fiji to me has a very mixed cast and Rita falls like in the middle. She was in the majority for awhile but Ravu was the Have-Nots tribe and they decided to go for strength and the girls were eliminated one by one. She does seem to have some potential but people mainly remember her, I guess, for the one sole vote for Earl that prevents him for having a perfect game with no votes cast against him. Actually, Probst even kinda forgot about her vote at first. In a different season, who knows how she might have fared. - masbond84
Most favorable demographic: Non-U.S. viewers (5.1212/10) Least favorable demographic: /survivor members of <1 year (4.5278/10) Strong positive correlations with: Josh Canfield - S29, Benry Henry - S21, Kyle Jason - S32 Strong negative correlations with: Betsy Bolan - S19, Stacey Powell - S23, Lindsey Cascaddan - S30 The year was 2007, and the world was caught up in Mookie fever - every night after Survivor aired, people would ask each other what they were thinking of Mookie. High Schoolers would draw pictures of him in their books with small hearts drawn on their books. But not all would last for Mookie "Rupert Donaldson" Lee. Okay, maybe he wasn't that popular. Or popular at all because I don't know who does remember this guy. For those that do, you might remember him being kind of a dick at certain points. Just watch the gross food eating challenge where he tries getting Lisi to throw up even when he had the heat locked down. Or when he decides to start digging for an idol he already has, just to mess with Lisi. Or him mocking Yau Man as he throws a fireball. Or blackmailing the eldest member of the tribe by searching through bags. Or the fact that one of his strongest allies in the game was Rocky. It definitely takes a certain type of person to find Fiji funny, but if you do the season's a riot. All those things I mentioned above? Had me in stitches last time I watched Fiji - because it involves someone failing, and watching people like Rocky, Mookie and Lisi fail can be quite hilarious. Now Mookie certainly isn't as bad as the other two when it comes to the game of Survivor, but he still had clear flaws - the biggest of which being "Oh Dreamz, we have the idol BTW". But not everyone on Survivor can be a titanic figure - sometimes you just need someone fairly ordinary in the background to laugh with and laugh at occasionally, and Mookie fills this role just as good as anyone. - WilburDes
Most favorable demographic: High school education or lower (5.2381/10) Least favorable demographic: /survivor members of <1 year (4.1176/10) Strong positive correlations with: Kelly Czarnecki - S17, Elyse Umemoto - S23, Angie Layton - S25 Strong negative correlations with: Rafe Judkins - S11, Reed Kelly - S29, Paschal English - S04 Honors: Strongest negative correlation for Marquesas (with Paschal English), #3 strongest negative correlation overall (with Rafe Judkins) Sarah has one of the better character introductions in the history of the show, when Sean compares her to Cleopatra refusing to paddle on the raft. In hindsight, I’m sure whatever proto-Edgic that existed at that time eliminated her on the spot. That’s really Sarah’s story for all four episodes she’s in- she’s lazy and only survives three tribal councils because Maraamu is a complete clusterfuck of Hunter Ellis falling on his ass. Once the swap happens, she’s totally screwed and makes the hilariously awful game move of just going back to camp (and gets lost in the process) instead of bonding with her tribe. She managed to pick up 11 votes in only 4 rounds of the game, which is almost impressive. I also kind of wish she had won most attractive female at America’s Tribal Council so we could’ve cut to a clip of her and Rob with Amber and Rob sitting right there on stage. Alas, like Osten she’s a fun character in a legendary season but slightly less fun and in a slightly less legendary season. - ivarngizteb
Most favorable demographic: Straight (5.3225/10) Least favorable demographic: Gay/Bi (3.9804/10) Strong positive correlations with: Kyle Jason - S32, John Rocker - S29, Randy Bailey - S17 Strong negative correlations with: Shii Ann Huang - S05, Aubry Bracco - S32, Becky Lee - S13 Honors: Worst from Kaoh Rong, #1 boost from men, Strongest positive correlation for Kaoh Rong (with Kyle Jason), Strongest negative correlation for Kaoh Rong (with Aubry Bracco), #1 strongest positive correlation overall (with Kyle Jason) Scot was such a polarizing character, and even I have very very mixed emotions about him. As a big NBA fan who remembers Scot playing for my Pacers, I wanted the big goofy guy to come onto the show and be this fun, likable goofball character. But he was hardly fun a lot of the time. But he was sort of a complex villain, especially when separated from, Jason, with whom all Scot's worst moments came. The Alecia incident was not, in my opinion, particularly poorly handled by Scot as Alecia was clearly very hard to live with. But the backlash Scot received from the community in general made me confidence in him as an okay guy waver ever so slightly...and then he made the merge and went in the minority and decided (with Jason's help) to be a total prat and make camp life miserable, which I am never a fan of in any circumstance (I'm looking at you, J'Tia). That Scot and the Scot we saw ignore Cydney at Ponderosa were not the Scot's I was looking forward to seeing, but Scot was, 80% of the time, a fun enough gregarious guy who I know is a decent person outside of the show. He certainly added villainous spice to the season that I think was certainly necessary, and I remain one of his bigger fans. But Survivor characters are people, and people have flaws, and I recognize Scot's while still being a fan. and ultimately, he got a very appropriate downfall at the hands of Tai not giving him his idol due to his less-than-stellar behavior. So all in all, Scot was definitely a good addition to the S32 cast. - Kid_Monotone
Most favorable demographic: Started watching Seasons 9-18 (5.4688/10) Least favorable demographic: Started watching Seasons 19-32 (4.6049/10) Strong positive correlations with: Jessica "Sugar" Kiper - S20, Liz Kim - S19, Nina Acosta - S24 Strong negative correlations with: Clay Jordan - S05, Ethan Zohn - S03, Rudy Boesch - S01 When I saw first Flicka, my impression is Survivor trying to cast again those hippie types just like Courtney Maritt, in the previous season. But of course, nobody gets near to what Courtney is. Flicka first started off losing the chickens causing Jonathan to be annoyed at her. She does soon to be close to him after that. When it's time to switch, she gets pulled in by Jonathan to vote off Cecilia. By this time, she had bonded with Cao boi and even managed to go on a trip with Ozzy and him and landed on the new Raro's tribe, much to their annoyance. Ultimately though, she landed on the opposite of numbers when Yul decided to target her ally, Cao-Boi, and left her hanging. Facing against Ozzy to be pushed out, the tribe valued Ozzy's athleticism and work ethic and Flicka was voted out. I'm not sure if she ever comes back, she would be more strategic about it but she's definitely interesting enough character wise probably. - masbond84
Most favorable demographic: Started watching Seasons 9-18 (5.1867/10) Least favorable demographic: In a relationship or married (4.5455/10) Strong positive correlations with: Jessica "Sugar" Kiper - S20, Ruth Marie Milliman - S12, Jessica "Sugar" Kiper - S17 Strong negative correlations with: Colby Donaldson - S02, Richard Hatch - S08, Richard Hatch - S01 Kat had such a lulzy story in BvW. It became pretty clear that she was going to try to emulate Kim Spradlin's gameplay as best she could, based on some of her confessionals and the fact that her luxury item was a framed picture of Kim. Her boot episode was the most telling. I'm a little fuzzy on the specifics, but I believe she had a few confessionals about how Laura (or maybe it was Monica, one of those two) were talking too much with too many people and that made her wary of them. According to her, talking too much to too many people was how you got yourself voted out. So what does she do to try to rectify the situation? She goes and talks too much to too many people and everyone catches on and votes her out for being shady. Womp womp. All that being said, Kat's not a terrible character, I actually like her a bit. Sure, she's not the sharpest crayon in the box but who cares, she made for good tv. I felt like the whole ""who wants to date someone who didn't make the merge"" thing was, while kind of funny, also a bit sad, since she actually believed that. - gerbil_george
Most favorable demographic: Women (5.3175/10) Least favorable demographic: Ages 20-25 (4.6484/10) Strong positive correlations with: John Cody - S27, Laura Morett - S19, Jerri Manthey - S08 Strong negative correlations with: Dave Ball - S19, Ian Rosenberger - S10, Greg Buis - S01 Candice is an incredibly confusing choice to be on HvV. Even working under the assumption that she was originally on Villains and swapped with Parvati due to fears of too many Micro people on Heroes, there’s endless amounts of better female villains. Jaime Dugan, Crystal Cox, Katie Gallagher, Ami Cusack, Eliza Orlins etc. would’ve all been much more sensible choices as female villains. On the season itself, Candice actually got a solid winner’s edit for a while and was a leading edgic contender. Unfortunately, all we learned about her during the pre-merge was that she was on the fringe of the Heroes alliance and wanted Colby out. Real riveting stuff. Then, we get Candice’s flip to the Villains, which is an absolutely idiotic move. If she stays with the Heroes and Sandra comes over, suddenly she’s in a dominant alliance of five with two clear outsiders (Colby was never in the main alliance, and Sandra flipped to it). So she sacrifices a path to the final three to get the Brandon Quinton treatment at the next tribal. I think this is a good spot for her- straddling the line between the irrelevants and the people who actively took away from their seasons. - ivarngizteb
Most favorable demographic: Gay/Bi (5.1321/10) Least favorable demographic: Started watching Seasons 9-18 (4.7955/10) Strong positive correlations with: Mary Sartain - S16, Liliana Gomez - S14, Brady Finta - S09 Strong negative correlations with: Tai Trang - S32, Gervase Peterson - S01, Jeff Varner - S31 Honors: #7 lowest standard deviation, #3 most 5's Link to spreadsheet with all results Tomorrow: Nobody is immunity in this countdown, as we knock out two trainwrecks who were fourth voted out. We also lose a member of a full-returnee season who made the finale.
Welcome to Episode 1 of Ripples, a new series where I examine the ripples made by the annual coaching carousel. For a full explanation of the series and the concept, look here. At the end of last season, Tom Coughlin officially stepped down from his position as head coach of the New York Giants after 12 seasons, although rumors swirl that he was forced out following a few disappointing seasons in a row (and bad clock management). Either way, he was replaced by the Giants' offensive coordinator for the last two years, Ben McAdoo. McAdoo is only 38, but has been coaching since college, over half his life. He coached with the Green Bay Packers for eight years, first with the tight ends, then quarterbacks. He won a Super Bowl ring there in 2010. Since joining the Giants, their offense has made great strides, including Eli Manning, who just had one of his best seasons in years. The Giants' future is looking good. The Giants decided to stay in-house to replace their offensive coordinator, going with their quarterbacks coach, Mike Sullivan. Sullivan has been a part of the Giants organization for many years, although non-consecutively, as he took a break in-between to be the offensive coordinator for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Sullivan won a Super Bowl ring with the Giants in 2011 and is a blue belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu. Sullivan was replaced by Rams offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti, Jr. Cignetti and his father were longtime coaches at Indiana University of Pennsylvania, McAdoo's alma mater, so that may have contributed to the hiring. Cignetti bounced around the league and Division I for a few years before settling with the Rams and their young quarterback, Sam Bradford. After a dreadful offensive performance this season, Cignetti was fired mid-season and floated over to New York. The Rams promoted their tight ends coach, Rob Boras, to replace Cignetti, and made him their permanent choice at the end of the season. Boras has been an assistant at Benedictine, Texas, and UNLV before making the jump to the NFL and coaching the tight ends for the Bears for six years, making a Super Bowl appearance in 2007. Now we make the jump to college, where records are a little spottier, so I'll be brief with my descriptions. The Rams hire Georgia's tight ends coach John Lilly to fill their gap. Lilly had coached in Division I since 1998 with Florida State and Georgia, always as a tight ends coach. Georgia hires Shane Beamer, son of legendary Virginia Tech coach Frank Beamer, as their new tight ends coach. Beamer was working under his father as running backs coach, having tutored former Giants RB David Wilson. Beamer gets replaced by the best name in this tree, Zohn Burden, Virginia Tech's wide receivers coach. To replace Burden, VT goes over to Memphis University and hires their wide receivers coach, Holmon Wiggins. Memphis goes down south and plucks a Tulane assistant, David Johnson, to fill their gap. Now, Johnson held two jobs at Tulane, running backs coach and tight ends coach, and he was replaced by two different guys, so the tree forks here. Let's cover the running backs coach branch first. Running backs branch: Johnson gets replaced in his first position by the holder of the same job at Liberty University, Jamaal Fobbs. Liberty decides to go to the CFL to replace him, hiring Toronto Argonauts special teams coordinator Scott Downing. The Argonauts decide to hire someone from the Canadian college ranks, and they go with Kelly Jeffrey, head coach at Mount Allison University, located in Sackville, New Brunswick, which competes in Canadian Interuniversity Sport, the major Canadian college sports conference. Their website isn't the greatest treasure trove of information, so I can find out that Jeffrey has been replaced as head coach by his defensive coordinator, Scott Brady, but I can't find out anything about the search for a new defensive coordinator or if one has already been found, so this branch will have to be left unfinished for now. Tight ends branch: Back to David Johnson, who was replaced as tight ends coach by someone who gives Zohn Burden a run for his money in the "best name" competition, Slade Nagle, the McNeese State running backs coach. We've finally reached FCS, and information is scarce. Nagle was replaced by Dennis Smith, tight ends coach, special teams coordinator, and recruiting coordinator for Florida A&M. Florida A&M's webpage listing their coaches has not been updated since Smith left, but an article from the Tallahassee Democrat confirms that graduate assistant Alex Peffley will take over as recruiting coordinator. We can't go down that branch until the list of coaches is brought up to date, so that concludes Part 1 of Ripples for now. FINAL TREE (for now) Giants head coach Tom Coughlin: stepped down Replaced by Giants offensive coordinator Ben McAdoo Replaced by Giants quarterbacks coach Mike Sullivan Replaced by Rams offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti, Jr. Replaced by Rams tight ends coach Rob Boras Replaced by Georgia tight ends coach John Lilly Replaced by Virginia Tech running backs coach Shane Beamer Replaced by Virginia Tech wide receivers coach Zohn Burden Replaced by Memphis wide receivers coach Holmon Wiggins Replaced by Tulane running backs/tight ends coach David Johnson Running backs branch: Replaced by Liberty running backs coach Jamaal Fobbs Replaced by Toronto Argonauts special teams coordinator Scott Downing Replaced by Mount Allison head coach Kelly Jeffrey Replaced by Mount Allison defensive coordinator Scott Brady To be continued because information has not been updated Tight ends branch: Replaced by McNeese State running backs coach Slade Nagle Replaced by Florida A&M tight ends/special teams coach/recruiting coordinator Dennis Smith Tight ends branch (2): To be continued because information has not been updated Special teams branch: To be continued because information has not been updated Recruiting branch: Replaced by Florida A&M graduate assistant Alex Peffley To be continued because information has not been updated NOTES: This post was kind of a proof-of-concept thing, and I'm still experimenting with the format. If you guys like it and want to see more, I can keep doing this as a series. Any and all feedback and suggestions are gladly accepted, as are better names. Thank you!
2015.06.14 17:40 forsbergisgodHelp On the Way - Your Weekly Listening Thread: 12/8/1990 - Tempe, AZ - "Monster" TMNS and Project Update!
Welcome back to another installment of your weekly listening thread, Help on the Way! UPDATE: As you know, HOTW is a backward looking project. But for two weeks this summer many of us in this great community will be looking forward to connecting with old friends and meeting new ones, as they see the boys one last time. So, after this week, ZohnTangel will command the sticky position of this illustrious sub to organize meetups at the Santa Clara and Chicago shows! BUT TAKE HEART HOTW FANS! Your weekly listening thread will continue onward as a regular old text post. Though harder to find for the next few weeks, remember: "you just gotta look around." Here's your show for the week of June 14, 2015! https://archive.org/details/gd90-12-08.sbd.hollister.472.sbeok.shnf Here's the set: One Cold Rain & Snow ; Picasso Moon ; Loser ; New Minglewood Blues ; Row Jimmy ; Desolation Row ; Tennessee Jed ; The Music Never Stopped Two Victim Or The Crime > Foolish Heart > Playing In The Band > Uncle John's Band > Jam > Drums > Space > All Along The Watchtower > Black Peter > Around And Around > One More Saturday Night Encore U.S. Blues Grateful Zoo Miracles Remember, this whole project is randomized. A run down about what this is all about can be found here: http://www.reddit.com/gratefuldead/comments/2fqahw/z/cke00lq Enjoy the show and please comment if moved to do so!
2014.06.14 00:50 tabledresser[Table] IAmA: My name's Malcolm Freberg. You know me best from being starved & miserable on Survivor, but I'm hosting a new show this summer called Wayfaring. And I'm here to answer your questions. AMA.
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After Jeff walks off with the votes, 3 dozen oompa loompas walk onset. They perform a choreographed routine, after which, teleportation machines are brought in to the set that immediately send the finalists and the jury back to their respective homes.
Yes, the crew has a large base camp far away from our beach. But in addition to that, they have a smaller camp very close to where we live during the game. They get to eat, they get to shower, and we resent them for it.
The spirit of Wayfaring is that anyone can control it. I'm not going to be upset if we got highjacked. I would be excited if somebody were so invested in the idea. We WANT people to highjack us. That's part of the fun.
When Andrea and I were in Ponderosa, we dined upon Rum peanut butter smoothies non-stop for a week. I will give you the recipe, but don't blame me for the subsequent weight gain.
Add 2 tablespoons of peanut butter, 2 shots of spiced rum, 2 teaspoons of cinnamon, 1 whole banana, 1/2 cup milk, and 1 scoop of ice cream (if available). Blend, serve, and cancel all your plans for the rest of the day.
This is not a joke: I tend to think everyone looks better when they're on the show. There's no overly done makeup. People are tan, people are skinny. I think people look WORSE when they get to the jury because they've gotten fat and they've coated themselves in 3 layers of concealer.
During casting, Jeff Probst defended me in front of Mark Burnett. That story is too long to go into here, but I immediately felt a sense of fatherly attachment to Probst. But once we got on the island, he immediately becomes an antagonist, trying to trick you into screwing up all the time, and you lose all feelings of affection very quickly.
Well, it's much more sanitary (as disgusting as it sounds) to go in the ocean when the tide is out. We only had to poop every few days, because we are eating so little. But when we do have to drop a deuce, doing it straight into the water is the most hygienic way to do it.
2) I'm simultaneously thrilled and terrified for this July. Thrilled that i get to do a 20 day road trip of the United States. Terrified that I am going to leave all control of my life for 3 weeks in the hands of YOU PEOPLE. 3) Who am I cheering for?!?! AMERICA! Always and forever! I don't care about soccer, I care about patriotism!
Whoever takes over for Jeff Probst one day is going to be DESTROYED by the audience. No one will ever be able to match what he does. He's become iconic and tied to the show. Just like tribal council and immunity challenges, he's become part of the fabric of what makes Survivor so great. Because you just proposed to me over reddit, that's why! ;)
We had almost no time to plan our move that night because I found the idol so close to tribal council. Our initial thought was that SRU would target Sherri because she was the new member of the group. So announcing Phillip was supposed to cause more drama and debate than it actually did. Instead, it relaxed the tension of SRU and neutered the drama of our move. I completely agree that announcing Phillip was the wrong move, and to this day it haunts me a little bit. I think that the double Idol play was the correct way to handle the situation, but I don't think we executed it as well as we should have.
I'm not sure i remember that exact story? Cochran is fond of aggrandizing me a bit. He's one of my very good friends to this day. But I absolutely don't think I ever extended my arms cockily and said "welcome to my world" or whatever he thinks i said.
1) From the time we arrive, and then we go through getting mic'd up, going through health checks, and then waiting for it to be completely dark, and then the actual tribal, and then the actual tallying of the votes, and then actually getting home, is about a 4-5 hour process. Tribal council isn't only bad because you have to kick somebody off the island, it's bad because it keeps you up way way later than you usually do when you're playing the game.
2) No one that i know of has ever admitted regret towards their vote. Both seasons I was on, the winner was very clear before we even went into the final tribal council. I know that some members of the jury were surprised at other members of the jury's votes, but i've never heard anyone regret it.
1) I only found the second idol half an hour before that Tribal council. There was very little time to plan logistics with Eddie and Reynolds. I was able to tell them that we would all be fine, that we were all protected that night, but as far as the exact delivery and scheming of the evening, which I will admit I didn't handle as well as I could, was completely impromptu.
Well, off the top of my head, I would want Boston Robb, because he's awesome; Denise, because she's my Jungle Momma; Andrea, because we think the same way; Ethan Zohn , I've never met him but it would be cool to hang with the guy; and Richard Hatch, because he would make everyone uncomfortable by being naked.
For the 5 people I'd want the least, again, off the cuff: Brandon Hantz; J'dia, because I'm fond of eating; Phillip Sheppard, because i hate my nicknames; and anyone who ever quit shouldn't be allowed to come back.
I honestly thought I would be a villain on the show. I went into Survivor completely prepared to be portrayed negatively. And I didn't care as long as I won a million dollars. Instead, I became a favorite - I'm certainly not upset about that. But I'd rather have a larger bank account.
I approached Survivor as a game, and whatever lessons you could learn sitting around a board game like Monopoly or Candy Land is what I took away from the game. The caveat to that is you learn a lot about human nature and how awful people become when they are hungry.
1) It's not the starving. It's not the conditions. It's the people. The cast of Survivor is chosen to create drama, meaning most of your tribe would be crappy coworkers, let alone island mates. The people are the hardest part.
When the show first came out, I remember being upset that certain brilliant things I'd said hadn't been aired. But oddly, what's shown on tV becomes your reality. What CBS decides to put out colors your memories of how the game actually went. That being said, everything that ever came out of Eddie Fox's mouth was hysterical.
Nobody in casting cares about your athletic background or if you have a Navy seal background of 20 years. All they care about is if you're entertaining on camera. The tape that you submit to casting is everything. Make sure you're well spoke and engaging. I would recommend one shot of tequila and one cup of coffee before you make it.
Because of copyright laws, Survivor can't show anyone singing popular music on their show. So we could never sing while the cameras were on. But they would give us some leeway late at night after the action had stopped from the day. One of my favorite memories of Survivor that didn't make the show was Andrea singing our tribe to sleep at night.
If I did Amazing Race, it would not be with a family member. My mom is too fond of the comforts at home, my dad is too busy supporting my mom's comforts at home, and my brother is a train wreck. If I did Amazing Race, it would have to be with somebody not in my family.
Michelangelo will always be my favorite because he's the silliest. Raphael bugs me, Leonardo was an authority figure, and I don't do well with authority, and Donatello is intimidating for being smarter than me.
I thought Tony was amazing too. I think he played a great game. I always love when players come out aggressively. And Tony had boldness in spades. I love Spencer to death, but he was out-matched by the NJ cop.
The secret to my hair is apathy. I give zero shits about what goes into my hair. I can't explain where the fascination comes from but I certainly don't discourage people from continuing to ask questions about it.
When I was awarded the illustrious title of Mister Survivor, I always knew that Wayfaring was going to happen this July. And the belt that I was duly awarded will certainly be on the trip, and many pictures across the U.S. will be taken.
I think Wayfaring will be much easier than Survivor. I'm going to be fed, I'm going to bathe, and as much as the public gets to torture me at their will, it still can't be as bad as what CBS did to me.
I'm very excited to visit ANYWHERE. As much as the public perception is that I'm well-traveled, I really haven't seen much of the United States. So I'm excited to do anything, and wouldn't dismiss a place just for reputation.
I had a great experience teaching overseas for a year. It was one of the highlights of my life. And I still work with children's programs to this day. But my year as an elementary school teacher taught me that I don't have it in me to be a teacher full-time and I have the utmost respect for teachers in the US who I believe are completely under-valued by society.
I was a huge Survivor fan growing up. It was the only reality show I logically would do. That being said, I always wanted to be a rockstar, so American Idol would be my dream. That being said though, I have zero singing ability. I know that's common for Rockstars to not have any ability, but my ego couldn't take the bashing of being the guy that was dismissed so early in the competition.
I don't know that he's a fan favorite, but I thought Coach played a great game and got robbed on one of his last seasons. I understand WHY he lost, but his hypocrisy shouldn't have overshadowed his game. As far as celebrities, I know that Neil Patrick Harris is a huge Survivor fan, and I think he'd be great on the show as an under-estimated competitor. And I'd like to put Probst on the show. I'd like to see how he does when he's not in the comfortable hosting role.
What scares me the most is letting you people, members of the internet community, make all my decisions for me. I'm not going to be able to choose where I go, and what I do each day. I'm not a control freak, but that's terrifying to anybody. I'm sure it's going to be fun, but I've seen how you people torture anyone who slips over anything in the public eye, and I'm completely convinced that you're going to torture me for all of July.
2013.06.30 00:13 SurvivorNut27Survivor 3 Africa Breakdown
New Twists The first ever tribe swap! On day 13 three members from each of the tribes are switched, resulting in the biggest Survivor twist ever at this point. The tribe swap soon becomes a norm, but this is the one that shook things up first. The Winner: Ethan Zohn Ethan was a very solid all around player. He was handsome, athletic, and nice to everyone which led to him never being on the chopping block. Ethan joined forces with Lex and Tom and day 2 to form this seasons most powerful alliance. At the tribe switch Ethan is isolated away from his alliance members, but is fine until they are reunited at the merge. Ethan doesn't have any big moves in particular that put him in the FTC, but played smart the whole 39 days. Of the three members of his alliance he was the one loyal to both. When Tom and Lex turned on each other in the end, Ethan stayed safe in the middle. Ethan also brought back a box of cookies from a reward for the tribe. This scored huge brownie points at the time. Characters
Ethan: Good looking and really nice. Once he got in the power alliance he was never in jeopardy.
Kim J: Her game was all about staying loyal to the original Boran tribe. That and winning the final two immunity challenges got her into the FTC.
Lex: The leader of the Boran tribe. Formed the power alliance with Ethan and Tom on day 2. Did a good job forming bonds with everybody, but seemed to wear on everyone towards the end. Won 5 of 6 challenges at one point, including the car.
Big Tom: Everyone's favorite goat farmer. You could only understand half of what he said, but it was always hilarious. Big Tom's Survivor strategy: Get into a strong threesome on day 1, and ride it to the very end. The problem is Tom eventually gets caught scheming both times.
Teresa "T-Bird": So nice, and actually very strategic. She was trying to create new opportunities for herself the entire game. It got her fifth despite being in a tough spot from the beginning.
Kim Powers: This seasons cutie. Originally a part of the lazy young Samburu, she got better after the merge. She tried to play strategic, but couldn't get the numbers.
Frank: The military man who was on his own safari. Had no social game, but a funny relationship with Brandon.
Lindsey: The leader of the lazy young Samburu tribe, and a total bitch. Made necklaces for her young alliance.
Season Summary Start of Game: Here are all of your supplies, take what you want and hike to camp. The Boran tribe decide to only take 2 out of 3 water jugs, and quickly decide to dump all of the water out. On the hike, Samburu breaks almost all of their water gords/pots which really hinders them pre-merge. Pre-Merge: Samburu is instantly split 4v4 by age and work ethic. Meanwhile Lex, Ethan, and Tom form their alliance on day 2. Boran votes are easy based on 2 members dehydrating. Samburu's first vote is deadlocked and comes down to the first and only quiz tiebreaker. Carl goes home putting the young Samburu in a power position. Tribe Swap: Day 13 has the first ever tribe swap. Silas is instantly screwed being on the new Boran tribe with Frank and T-Bird. Lex, Tom, and Kelly get to the Samburu camp and are like "wtf have you guys been doing here?!" Lex, Tom, and Kelly are able to learn that Lindsey has past votes against her and when the votes are deadlocked at tribal, that becomes the difference. Merge: The merge starts with 6 original Boran members and 4 original Samburu, and this proves the difference as the Samburu members can never gain any control. Lex, Tom, Ethan, and Kim J make up the dominant 4 and dictate most votes. It looks shaky at times, but they do manage to get it to a Boran final 4. Final Immunity: Stand with one leg on each stump while keeping a hand on the idol. Survivor reuses this as a final immunity challenge several times. I do like this challenge as it is almost solely about focus and willpower. Kim wins and takes Ethan to FTC. FTC: Definitely seems to favor Ethan going in, and it results in the biggest win of the first three seasons, 5-2. Kim is targeted as having ridden coattails to get there. Ethan preaches how he maintained his integrity while being a nice guy. Not sure if there is a swing vote. Kelly went with the "pick a number between 1-1000 question". If Kim gets that right, the swing becomes Lex who had a close relationship with both finalists. Ethan seemed to have had this wrapped up though. Craziest/Funniest Moments
Samburu creates fire on day 2 from a telescope lense that is included in the first aid kit. Meanwhile Boran fails to realize they have the same supplies.
Clarence takes two cherries instead of one.
Clarence stays at camp to take care of a dehydrated Diane while everyone else goes to the waterhole. While away Clarence opens a can of beans for him and Diane. The tribe is furious, and while his physical ability buys him some time, this event sealed his fate.
The first Samburu tribal is deadlocked 4v4, old vs young. With no previous votes to go off of the tiebreaker becomes a survival quiz. Lindsey wins sending Carl home.
The young Samburu ask the older tribe members to vote for Lindsey since she already has previous votes against her. The older members instead target Silas as a big screw you.
Lindsey is suffering from dehydration and Linda walks up on her. Not to make fun of her pain, but their hate relationship makes this funny.
Big Tom & Lex remove a tick from Lindsey's ass.
In the first immunity challenge after the tribal swap, Boran throws the challenge for the first time in Suvivor history to protect their friends on the Samburu tribe.
Clarence gives the chickens an ultimatum, lay an egg by the morning or die. The chickens delivers, but they eat it anyway.
Frank tries to communicate with an elephant by swinging his arms and canteen.
The tribal Clarence gets voted out, T-Bird votes for Lex, sending Lex on a rampage the next day. By next tribal, Lex has decided Kelly cast the vote against him and decides to send her home.
Big Tom gets a massive boil on his neck.
Frank & Brandon win a movie dinner date reward.
At the auction Ethan and Tom combine money to win a mystery item that is pancakes, bacon, and ham. Tom shouts "He's a Jew! He's a Jew, he won't eat the ham!"
Kim J bathes downstream from elephant poop and Tom has some funny confessionals commenting on it.
Tom has some funky smelling feet/boots.
At tribal Lex refers to being voted out as "a walk of shame". The next tribal Kelly, on the jury, shows up wearing a shirt that reads "Shameless".
Tom's FTC question of "If a hyena walks into our camp, eats the food, and then licks his butt...why did he just lick his butt?"
What if/ Why Moments
What if Kim J is voted off in ep3 or ep4? She cost her team in challenges early by being older. If Boran loses an immunity she is the one on the chopping block.
Why does Brandon vote with Boran and send Kelly home? At 9 people left, Lex is on a witch hunt to eliminate "the snake" that voted for him. He decides it's Kelly and does his noble thing of telling her she is going home. Kelly then defects over to the remaining Samburu 4 and put themselves in a position to take out Lex that night. At tribal Brandon votes for Kelly instead sending her home, all because he refused to work with Frank.
What if Kim J flips at 7 and goes with the remaining Samburu to eliminate Lex and his alliance? This is one of T-Bird's many strategies to try and advance herself. She had a lot of good ideas, and had Samburu ever gained control she could of easily made FTC. Unfortunately for her, no one ever took the bait.
What if Lex doesn't win immunity at 5? Tom and Lex's relationship is starting to boil over, and T-Bird seems to have Kim J and Tom in place to get Lex out. Another T-Bird plan that gets her into FTC if it works out.
What if Lex and Kim join Teresa to vote Tom off at 5? After Lex wins immunity Teresa tells Lex how Tom has floated his name around, but once again Boran stays loyal. So close for Teresa on so many different tries.
What if Kim takes Lex to FTC, or what if one of the guys wins final immunity. I think Lex might win vs Kim J by getting the votes of Ethan, Tom, Teresa, and Brandon. If either guy wins final immunity they both eliminate Kim. In FTC I think Ethan comes out ahead as everyone liked him, while people grew impatient of Lex at the end.
It's Africa!: The contestants are constantly reminded of their harsh locale over the season. This season has more dehydration incidents than most with Diane, Jessie, and Lindsey all falling apart. Lions stalk the bomas on several occasions and Boran runs into a Cape Buffalo on the way back to camp. The lack of good water and food sources does seem to effect the social activity of the tribes.
Interesting Season Notes
The tribes started with partially built boma fences around their camp. This and Gabon are the only seasons that future any prebuilt structures.
Ep7, the first individual immunity challenge is the premiere of the "hold your arm in the air" challenge. Teresa wins immunity after rock, paper, scissors with Clarence.
Ep8, Ethan wins the reward of two goats to take into town and barter. Really unique reward.
Ep10 is the first sighting of Jeff saying the full "Lex wins immunity!". Even then it is a little half assed and still not a consistent thing by the end of the season.
The final 4 immunity challenge is the tribe mate quiz challenge. Lex gives a correct answer that is ruled wrong, giving Kim J immunity. Huge mistake that completely changes the final 4. If Kim J doesn't win immunity she is gone that night. With so much on the line it is disappointing that production wouldn't be 100% on the answers to their questions. CBS does boost Tom and Lex's payout to the second place money of $100,000 as compensation.
The voting tiebreaker: This season sees two deadlock votes. The first happens at Samburu's first tribal. With no previous votes possible the tiebreaker becomes a survival quiz, the only time we have ever seen this tiebreaker used. After the tribe swap the game again becomes a game of figuring out who has past votes. Lindsey's previous votes against eliminate her just before the merge.
Overall Season Rating I personally have this season ranked around the middle of the 26. The location of Africa is bold and really cool, but ultimately hinders the game a bit. This is the first season that all the contestants are their to play from day 1, and production really finds a nice balance between gameplay and survival. Ethan plays a great social game throughout, never once receiving a vote against. He put himself in a majority alliance from the beginning and successfully sticks with it. Ethan did a good job of building relationships with jury members while keeping his integrity. A solid season winner, but nothing special. I personally rank Ethan somewhere in the back half of survivor winners at 15-26.
Background: I have to admit, that although there are many better cases from a strictly verifiable stand-point, my favorite UFO case that got me hooked many, many years ago, was from the summer of 1947, in a then unknown part of New Mexico called Roswell. I dont think there has ever been a case with so many hands in the pot, which makes it a little unwieldy to get your head around, but I think there was some very good reasons why it has evolved this way. And as a very great man once said, When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth,... I believe the first statement released claiming to have a "flying disc", was a reactionary, holy shit moment by the naive, honest servicemen and reporters originally involved. TBTP, waited nervously from the time of the initial report, until they knew they had the site cleaned and wrapped up, and then released the cover story of a weather balloon. Everything the government has done since in regards to Roswell has been like watching a dog chase it's tail. Without a doubt there was govt involvement in a coverup. Not once, not twice, but at least three times, as the story evolved from a ufo, to a weather balloon, to project mogul, Japanese balloon testing, V2 rocket testing, to Nazi Hannebu class craft, and now allegedly, even to a russian psy-op with the aid of Dr Mengele,... Most of these can be put to rest without much effort. The original weather balloon story, was a farce. I don't think anyone needs to have that debunked for themselves, as the wreckage strewn about the now infamous press release photo is plain enough to see, that some string, balsa wood frame and mylar balloon material, wasn't the kind of thing that would spawn nation-wide claims of ufo from all who were witness to the calamitous events back in 1947. The biggest part of the story, didn't really gain any traction until more than 30 years later. Certain witnesses, were brought forward by ST Friedman to oppose the "official" story. Timeline: 2nd July On Wednesday 2nd July at around 9:50pm, Mr. & Mrs. Dan Wilmot report seeing an oval-shaped UFO from their house at South Penn, Roswell, moving NW, towards the crash site. Dan Wilmot estimates it as being at around 1500 feet and 15 to 20 feet in diameter (Roswell UFO). Mac Brazel and others hear a loud explosion. 3/4th July Mac Brazel, accompanied by 7-year-old neighbour Dee Proctor, discovers a large amount of lightweight, metallic debris (the crashed Roswell flying saucer) on a remote pasture (the debris field). Brazel was foreman of the Foster Ranch. The pieces were spread out over a large area. When Brazel and Dee drove back home, he showed a piece of the wreckage to Dee's parents, Floyd and Loretta Proctor. It was agreed the debris was unlike anything seen before. Brazel removes a large, circular piece of debris from the debris field and stores it in a shed. 5th July Mac Brazel is in Corona and hears about the $3000 reward money for a "flying disc". 6th July Mac Brazel showed pieces of the wreckage to Chaves County Sheriff George Wilcox. Wilcox called Roswell Army Air Field (AAF) and talked to Major Jesse Marcel, the intelligence officer. Marcel drove to the sheriff's office and inspected the wreckage. William Blanchard, Marcel's commanding officer, ordered Marcel to get someone from the Counter Intelligence Corps, and to proceed to the ranch with Brazel to collect as much of the wreckage as they could. Soon after this, military police arrived at the sheriff's office, collected the wreckage Brazel had left there, and delivered the wreckage to Blanchard's office. The wreckage was then flown to Eighth Air Force headquarters in Fort Worth, and from there to Washington. Marcel and Cavitt accompany Brazel back to his car to go to the debris field. The two deputies return to Sheriff Wilcox, having found an area of blackened ground. Marcel and Cavitt stay at Brazel's ranch and examine the large piece of debris stored in the shed. 8th July 11:00am Blanchard dictates a press release on the recovery of a flying disk to PIO Walter Haut. Haut goes into town to deliver his press release to the radio stations and newspapers. His first is at station KGFL, where he gives the release to Frank Joyce. Noon: The information is put on the AP wire. 1st flight in arrives from Washington DC, carrying a special team of photographers and W/O Robert Thomas. Timeline #1 Timeline #2 from NICAP Researchers: Too many to mention,... Witnesses: Lt. Walter Haut: Former Roswell base public information officer who issued the base press release. Haut's "deathbed" sealed affidavit has just been published. In it he confesses to seeing the spacecraft and bodies in base Hangar 84/P-3 and tells us the mysterious press release was Gen. Ramey's idea to divert press and public attention away from the closer and more important craft/body site. Sgt Frederick Benthal: Army photographer flown in from Washington D.C., said he photographed alien bodies in a tent at crash site and saw large quantities of crash debris being hauled away in trucks. PFC Elias Benjamin: Roswell MP, said he escorted the alien bodies from the heavily guarded base Hangar P-3 to the base hospital, and saw a live one being worked on by doctors; was threatened afterwards if he didn't keep quiet. 1st Lt. Chester P. Barton: A crypto specialist and assigned to an MP unit, Barton said he was ordered to the crash site 45 minutes north of town to check on the cleanup, saw a football-field-size burn impact area heavily guarded by MPs, scattered metal debris, was told radiation was at the site, heard archeologists had first discovered it, and also heard bodies were taken to base hospital and then to Fort Worth. Because of what he saw, he knew that the balloon explanation was ridiculous and there had been a cover-up. However, Barton was unusual in being a flying saucer crash skeptic, instead thinking that it was maybe a B-29 crash and nuclear accident. Major Jesse Marcel: Then the intelligence chief at Roswell and the first to investigate sheep rancher Mack Brazel's find, Marcel confirmed in a number of interviews 30 years later that the crash debris had highly anomalous properties and was "not of this Earth." Marcel also spoke of Ramey's weather balloon cover-up at Fort Worth. Click on link to Marcel for more information on his service record, which belies efforts of debunkers to paint him as hysterical and incompetent. Note particularly highly laudatory post-Roswell evaluations by base commander Col. William Blanchard, Gen. Ramey, and future USAF Chief of Staff Col. John Ryan. Marcel's testimony on anomalous debris. Marcel's sighting before Roswell & other witnesses seeing saucer explode. Bill Brazel Jr.: Rancher Mack Brazel's son, Bill Brazel independently corroborated many details of Marcel's testimony, including the strange debris, the large, elongated debris field, and his father's story of an explosion in the middle of a violent electrical storm. Louis Rickett: One of the regular Army CIC agents in Marcel's office, Rickett confirmed the anomalous quality of the debris, a major cleanup operation at Brazel's ranch, high secrecy, and being involved in a subsequent investigation to determine the trajectory of the craft. He was also told by others about the shape of the main craft. Like Chester Barton, he placed the main impact site a 45 minute drive north of Roswell. Brig. Gen. Arthur Exon: Though not a direct participant, Exon was stationed at Wright Field at the time, overflew the area soon afterwards, and was later commanding officer of Wright-Patterson AFB. Exon when first interviewed flatly stated, "Roswell was the recovery of a craft from space." Among other things, he confirmed the existence of two main crash sites. Exon also said he heard that bodies were recovered and confirmed the debris was highly anomalous based on testing done by labs at Wright-Patterson. Exon added that he was aware of other crash-recoveries that occurred while he was C/O at Wright-Patterson. Chester Lytle: The nuclear engineer who built the first A-bomb implosion detonator revealed being told by Roswell base commander William Blanchard, a personal friend, that Roswell was an alien spacecraft crash and four bodies had been recovered. All were eventually taken to Wright-Patterson for study in a highly secure facility. He personally knew the general in charge. He also learned from other sources who had seen the bodies results of the autopsies done. Major Gen. Kenner Hertford, head of the Army's atomic energy department, who Lytle said had a UFO sighting with him at Kirtland AFB, was also convinced Roswell was extraterrestrial and bodies were recovered. Steven Lovekin: (served in the White House Army Signal Corp durng Eisenhower and Kennedy administrations, 1959-1961) Although like Exon not a direct participant, Lovekin said he received 1959 Pentagon briefings and being shown a metallic beam with symbols from a 1947 N.M. crash (presumably Roswell) plus being told of either 3 or 5 aliens being recovered, one initially alive. He also said he was shown very compelling photographic and radar evidence of UFOs. He also testified of the threats against military personnel given this information if they were to publicly reveal it. Finally, he told of Eisenhower's concern over losing control of the situation with power falling into the hands of private corporations given access to the materials. Lovekin is a Disclosure Project witness. Video testimony; audio testimony. Brig. Gen. Thomas Dubose: Gen. Ramey's Chief of Staff in 1947, Dubose handled the high-level phone communications between Roswell, Fort Worth, and Washington. Dubose went on record many times about the high secrecy involved (including the matter going directly to the White House), receiving direct orders from Washington to instigate a cover-up, Gen. Ramey's weather balloon cover story, and a highly secret shipment of debris from Roswell to Fort Worth, Washington, and Wright Field. Dubose's damning testimony made him a complete nonentity in the Air Force's 1995 Roswell report, which didn't even bother to identify him in the photos taken of Gen. Ramey with his weather balloon. Sgt. Robert Slusher and PFC Lloyd Thompson: Crew members on a mysterious B-29 flight from Roswell to Fort Worth on July 9, 1947, transporting a large wooden crate in the bombbay surrounded by an armed guard. Upon arrival, the plane was met by high brass and a mortician. This is probably the flight referred to in the Ramey memo that would ship whatever was "in the 'disc'" to Fort Worth by a B-29 Special Transport plane. Frank Kaufmann: A highly controversial witness claiming to be one of the exclusive members of a special CIC-team (Army Counter-Intelligence Corp) in charge of the Roswell recovery operation. Nonetheless, some of Kaufmann's claims seem to be corroborated by the Ramey message, including the existence of such a team, the recovery of an intact "disk" with bodies inside about 35 miles north of Roswell base, and the special team being responsible for the initial Roswell base press release. Kaufmann also testified to knowing of a wooden crate guarded in a hangar with the bodies packed inside awaiting shipment, perhaps the same crate independently described by Slusher and Thompson. However, in light of the Ramey memo, that places the finding of "victims" and a "disk" on around July 8, Kaufmann's statements about a July 5 recovery date for the craft and bodies is almost undoubtedly false, as was his crash location. Glenn Dennis: A Roswell mortician and another highly controversial witness, Dennis spoke of receiving strange calls from the base about preservation techniques and child-sized coffins. Dennis also claimed to be at the Roswell base hospital, seeing unusual debris in the back of an ambulance including a pod-like object perhaps alluded to in the Ramey message, and being threatened. He also claimed to know a Roswell nurse who assisted in a preliminary autopsy at the base hospital and who described the aliens to him. The nurse subsequently disappeared. However, attempts to identify the mystery nurse have proven to be a complete failure after Dennis provided a false name. However, also see some corroborative evidence immediately following Dennis' affidavit, such as David Wagnon, a medical technician, who remembered the nurse fitting Dennis' description, as did Pete Anaya, who said the pretty nurse he knew and encountered at the base hangar telling him of the bodies there subsequently disappeared. Roswell police chief L. M. Hall. stated that Dennis was telling him of calls from the base about small coffins for the aliens only a few days after the crashed saucer story broke in the Roswell papers. Similarly, S/Sgt. Milton Sprouse also said he heard of the coffin call from Dennis and a medic friend told him of the alien bodies and autopsy at the hospital. The medic and doctors and nurses involved in the autopsy all immediately were transferred and their fate remained unknown. In addition, other independent witnesses have provided first and second-hand testimony about small bodies being found with details very similar to those provided by Dennis, including Walter Haut, Frederick Benthal, Eli Benjamin, and relatives of "Pappy" Henderson, immediately below. Family and friends of Oliver "Pappy" Henderson: Henderson was one of the senior pilots at Roswell. When the first public stories of a Roswell saucer crash began circulating in 1981, Henderson confided to family and friends of being the pilot who flew bodies of the aliens and crash wreckage to Wright Field. He also claimed to have seen the craft and bodies, and provided a description of the aliens. Sgt. Robert E. Smith: A member of an air transport unit at Roswell, Smith said he helped load crates filled with debris for transport by C-54's, including one flown by Henderson and his crew. Smith was also among the witnesses to describe the mysterious "memory foil" which he said was in the crates. He further described strangers to the base dressed in plainclothes and flashing ID cards for some unknown project, perhaps part of the special CIC-team mentioned in the Ramey memo and by Frank Kaufmann. Finally he claimed that distant cousin of his was with the Secret Service and was there at the base representing President Truman. (The same name was also provided by Kaufmann.) S/Sgt. Earl V. Fulford: In the engineering squadron, Fulford said he participated in the large debris field cleanup guarded by MPs, handled the mysterious "memory foil," saw what may have been the tarped crash object on a flatbed truck being towed to Hangar 84, and in the middle of the night was made to load a large wooden crate into an idling C-54. (Testimony on memory foil; testimony on debris field; Fulford's UFO sighting at Roswell) Earl Zimmerman: Formerly with AFOSI (AF counterintelligence). While in officers' club heard many rumors about flying saucer crash and of it being investigated under the guise of an airplane crash. Several times observed Gen. Ramey and Charles Lindbergh being at base unannounced in connection with this. Like Robert Smith, spoke of seeing an unknown CICman being at base. Col. Blanchard told him it was OK. Later worked with astronomer Dr. Lincoln LaPaz and corroborated story of Roswell CICman Lewis Rickett that LaPaz investigated Roswell afterwards with the help of the CIC to try to determine objects trajectory. Again an airplane crash was the cover story. Lt. Robert Shirkey: Then the assistant operations officer, Shirkey witnessed the loading of the B-29 that took Major Marcel to Fort Worth to see Gen. Ramey. He said he saw boxes of debris being carried on board, including an I-beam with raised markings and a large piece of metal, brushed stainless steel in color, obviously not part of a tinfoil radar target. He was told it was from a flying saucer. Along with witness Robert Porter, he also stated that the plane's pilot was Deputy Commanding Officer Lt. Col. Payne Jennings, who was now the Acting C/O with Col. Blanchard officially on leave. Nine days later, Shirkey was abruptly transferred to the Philippines to a post that didn't exist. Jennings personally flew him to his next assignment. Sgt. Robert Porter: Was on Marcel's flight to Fort Worth and was handed wrapped packages of debris samples. Said that flight was piloted by Deputy base commander Jennings. He was told on board that the crash material was from a flying saucer. Later, they told him it was a weather balloon. Said debris was loaded onto another plane. Nathan Twining Jr.: Nathan Twining’s same-named son told investigators (including Tom Carey) that on UFOs, he had remembered that his father had mentioned to him that he was very concerned about the increasing number of pilots that were “lost” while scrambling for and chasing the illusive flying objects. And a recent and very little-viewed video of testimony given by an unassuming Englishwoman suggests strongly that General Twining –and his son- knew far more about the true nature of Roswell crash than they had ever let on publicly. Media Coverage: Fallout: It was unequivocally, the most prolific ufo wave in history when looking at the sheer volume of reports, and it prompted the government into action, from which, it`s stance on the subject has not veered since. It was, to me, the quintessential moment that TPTB decided this whole thing could lead to mass panic in the streets, and from that viewpoint alone, they needed a strategy to deal with the issue. The strategy that followed, and that is still the paradigm we live in 65 years later, is centered on denial, debunking, ridicule, and silencing witnesses. Less and less, would the media cavalierly print the daily statements of qualified witnesses, for soon, those witnesses would quickly stop coming forward with their statements from fear of ridicule. Editors would reject UFO stories outright, and a lid would be firmly attached to the top entire subject under the auspices of national security. Other Immediate Activity: But the story, as many of you are familiar with, does not start with the crash retrieval of a saucer in the desert in late June/early July 1947, but in the month before that when saucer reports from many a gold star witness went through the roof. Among the witnesses, Cpt. E. J. Smith and the rest of the United Air Lines crew of July 4 or rocket scientists Dr. C. J. Zohn, Curtis C. Rockwood, and John R. Kauke at White Sands missile range on June 29. Add in Mr. and Mrs. Dan Wilmot in Roswell on July 2, Navy Lt. William G. McGinty flying a P-80 near the Grand Canyon June 30,...and the list goes on. In fact there were so many ufo reports in the weeks before Roswell occurred, that chances are, wherever you are living now, there are some ufo reports from there in the month leading up to July 1947. Go check the microfiche of your local library(assuming your local library has access to it), and chances are there will be saucer activity reported in your area in June/July 1947. For a comprehensive oversight See also Alfred Loedding & The Great Flying Saucer Wave of 1947", co-authored by Michael D Hall Official Conclusions: Air Force reports on the Roswell UFO incident Air Force News Special Report Roswell Report: Case Closed US General Accounting Office to Congressman Steven Schiff (1995) Rebutting the Official Conclusions: A Different View of: Roswell- Anatomy of a Myth- Dr. Michael Swords SCIENTIST CHALLENGES AIR FORCE REGARDING UFOS-1997 S.T. Friedman GOVERNMENT UFO LIES: S.T. Friedman The Day After Roswell -Col. Philip Corso Commentary: "Roswell has been the Holy Grail of UFO research. It has offered hope to those seeking to prove a UFOcover-up, but has yet to deliver the goods. In retrospect, Roswell's hammer-lock on public discussionabout UFOs has been unfortunate. Through the lens of the pop media, the Roswell case has become akind of litmus test for the legitimacy of the entire UFO phenomenon. The case for the UFO is muchbroader and stronger than a fixation on Roswell warrants. The problem is that basic reading, research,and understanding of the larger picture has eluded a culture that appears unable to digest anything butthe most pre-masticated news, spoon-fed by video and sound-bytes over corporate airwaves. And thepublic has been feeding on Roswell for twenty years. Thus, the Roswell debate, while important on itsown merits, has brought an unmerited sense of finality to the UFO debate in general. Another problem with placing all of one's chips on Roswell is the unlikelihood that the true nature of thecrash will ever be established – to the satisfaction of all concerned parties. Heated though the Roswellargument has become, there is just not enough proof to establish beyond any reasonable doubt eitherof the two main contentions: (1) that an extraterrestrial object (with alien bodies) crashed, or (2) thatthe crash resulted from debris of a balloon of some sort. Ultimately, Roswell will probablyalways have more evidence than proof; lots of witness testimony but no smoking gun. Moreover, the debate is no simple believer versus skeptic affair. The vast outpouring of literature on thesubject includes many researchers, propagandists, and hacks of all opinions who have carved up UFO'sgreatest cash cow. Among those who believe in an ET solution to the Roswell puzzle, strong argumentsabout particulars continue to exist, augmented by personal rivalries and punctuated by emotionalattacks instead of reasoned debate. And the fact remains that many UFO researchers who otherwise"believe" in aliens do not believe that a UFO crashed at Roswell. Others, still, concede that an ETexplanation remains one of several valid possibilities. One thing we can say with reasonable certainty: claims to have "closed the case" are greatly premature,based on slender evidence, wrapped in the cloak of official sanction, and given widespread circulationby the mass media. In such an environment, it is unrealistic to presume that we will ever get to thebottom of the mystery. We may form opinions about what we think happened, but we would be wise torefrain from claiming to know much of anything, except that the military deceived the public about it forfifty years, and probably continues to do so. A final observation that often goes unnoticed: the Roswell crash occurred amid one of the greatest UFOsighting waves in modern history. While the case must stand or fall on its own merits, isolating it from itshistorical context has been an all-too-common mistake." ---Richard Dolan Links: UFOEvidence Roswell Links .
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